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so i finally got this turntable i had purchased on ebay today. hooked everything up (the red and white phono cables; it's going into the back of a panasonic mini system, and this very thin wiry cable that goes into the back of the system and says "GND" and soem symbol. i don't know what the last one does). the problem? i can only hear sound (and even then it sounds rough quality) if i turn the stereo up all the way to the max; which if it was playing a cd at would probably explode. am i doing something wrong? i was told that because the stereo has the phono plugs and everything i shouldn't have a problem. thanks very much for your help |
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sounds like you may need a preamp? |
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my dad's friend is an avid record collector. he told me that i wouldn't need one as long as i bought a record player that connected to it via phono plugs |
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it depends on if your panasonic mini-system has a decent amp in it i'm only guessing though - i don't own turntables, but my friend does. he tried to get his turntables going off of his mini-stereo but if i remember correctly, it wouldn't have it. he eventually bought a separate amp and got himself a decent 2 channel mixer |
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found this on a site, it could be the problem: "I think I know your problem. Did you by chance connect you turntables to the AUX? If so, you need to either connect them to the PHONO line or buy a PHONO to AUX converter. This is because the PHONO line boosts the sound in by 20 decibles for the turntables so anything going into the PHONO line is really loud. This also means that if you plug a turntable into another line, it's going to be quiet, hence your problem." they are going into an AUX port on mine. |
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yeah but the only way that a PHONO line could boost the signal going into the line is if that line was amplified at some point - either before the signal entering the system or after it's entered. you'd still need some way of amplifying the signal, right? i'm sorry that i can't be of more help. i'm sure that someone more knowledgeable will be able to assist i hope that you get it sorted :) |
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mine has a pre-amp built in that you can switch on and off at your own convenience. the switch is hidden under the slipmatt and can be accessed if you line up the switch with the hole in the turntable. i rule. |
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did i say slipmatt? :) DJS TAKE CONTROL!!! |
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GND is just a ground wire, if its not plugged in you'll hear a hum. |
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yeah, i took the ground wire out and it made no difference. no luck with looking for the preamp switch. thanks for your help oscilik. i'm completely in the dark, so i have no idea if you or what that other guy said is true... if it helps, it's a Technics SL-DD33 |
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is this what we're potentially talking about? |
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what that other dude said is absolutely correct... if you have your turntable hooked into an aux channel you will get shitty, quiet sound... if the receiver has phono input it would work fine... if not, buy yourself a preamp... if the preamp costs more than like 100$ just buy yourself a mixer... |
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the receiver doesn't have a phono input. can i buy a Phono-AUX convertor like he said or do i need to buy a preamp? thanks for everyone's help |
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you can use an old stereo with a working aux port as a preamp, just turn that stereo up full ball and plug it into the main stereo the difference between phono and aux (although I call it 'mic in' and 'line in') is the impedance, if you run the output from a mic in it's going to be louder but sound dodgier, the BEST solution is a pre-amp, so, like I said, if you have an old stereo system use taht would be my best advice, I got old equipment up to the whazoo all running through preamps into a $33 mixer, which didn't even have power for a month, (meaning only mic in would even work, so I quickly learnt the difference) so I can safely assume that I know my shit |
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yeah, it's got two rca's one side and a small mic port on the other |
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also, for better sound quality you always want the volume closest to the end of the line at it's highest, so for instance, if you were running through a mixer you should do as follows source (record player) Lowest possible volume preamp Lowest possible volume mixer (put up full ball and adjust previous two volumes until you have it at the maximum volume you would ever need) output (stereo system) Highest possible volume the reason for this is so that at no point are you overdriving the system, otherwise quality loss ensures, keep this in mind when installing any system with multiple run outs (for instance) most people who run music out of their computer also make the mistake of settting their computer volume right up and leading it out to their stereo which is turned rather quiet, when they should be turning their stereo up and their computer down |
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you lost me right from the start: "you can use an old stereo with a working aux port as a preamp, just turn that stereo up full ball and plug it into the main stereo" - don't understand. i don't have a stereo and a 'main stereo'? i just have a record player and a panasonic mini system. |
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ok here's what I meant lets assume that you don't want to buy a pre-amp if you have an old stereo system around that you don't use (maybe the cd player in it stopped working or you have no speakers for it etc... most people have at least one around their house somewhere) you can plug the line out from the record player into the system's auxillery port, plug it in and turn it up to the volume you want, and lead it out into your "panasonic mini system" via mic port, the old stereo would be effectively doing exactly what a pre-amp would, and as long as you have one lying around you don't have to go out and buy a preamp |
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ohh ok i see. thanks for the explanation. sorry i'm a bit slow. |
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