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Can dance music program your mind?
 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-06-02 07:21 [#01219242]
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An idm geek thought sprung to mind. A lot of the more avant
garde electronica like autechre, etc just seems to be
clikcking and glitches and shit like that. I used to like
autechre round about incunubulathingy but confield totally
flummaxed me. It was shit - or so i thought. No rythmn, no
discernible melodies or tunes, just a bunch of machine
noises rattling. I thought to myself - these guys are either
very clever or just a couple of stoners fucking about.

Do their songs(?) actually program your mind to think that
they are good? are these glitches some sort of code that
alters the thoughts in your head? It's the only explanation
i can come up with because in my opinion confield was a lot
of pretentious pish. I get constipated just thinking about
listening to it again. what a pile of wank that album is.
Emperor's new clothes indeed. ahmm saying...


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-02 07:23 [#01219244]
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the short answer: yes.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 07:25 [#01219248]
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It's no longer called IDM. It is now called "lapdance".


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-02 07:28 [#01219251]
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then he's a lapdance-geek, which undoubtedly sounds better
than IDM-geek!


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-06-02 07:35 [#01219261]
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Park the car at the side of the road
You should know
Time's tide will smother you
And I will too
When you laugh about people who feel so
Very lonely
Their only desire is to die
Well, I'm afraid
It doesn't make me smile
I wish I could laugh

But that joke isn't funny anymore
It's too close to home
And it's too near the bone
It's too close to home
And it's too near the bone
More than you'll ever know ...

Kick them when they fall down
Kick them when they fall down
You kick them when they fall down
Kick them when they fall down
You kick them when they fall down
Kick them when they fall down
You kick them when they fall down
Kick them when they fall down

It was dark as I drove the point home
And on cold leather seats
Well, it suddenly struck me
I just might die with a smile on my
Face after all

I've seen this happen in other people's
Lives
And now it's happening in mine

I've seen this happen in other people's
Lives
And now it's happening in mine

I've seen this happen in other people's
Lives
And now it's happening in mine

I've seen this happen in other people's
Lives
And now it's happening in mine
Oh ...

I've seen this happen in other people's
Lives
Oh ...
And now it's happening in mine
Happening in mine
Happening in mine
Happening in mine
Happening in mine

I've seen this happen in other people's
Lives
Oh ...
And now, now, now it's happening in mine
(I've seen this happen)
Happening in mine
Oh... now, now

I've seen this happen in other people's
Lives
Oh ...
And now it's happening in mine
(Happen)
Happening in mine
Oh ...
Happening in mine
Happening in mine
Happening in mine

I've seen this happen in other people's
Lives
Oh ...
And now, now, now it's happening in mine
Happening in mine
Mine, mine
Happening in mine


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-02 07:36 [#01219263]
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HAHAHAHAHAAHH!


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 07:41 [#01219273]
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Viva le IDM geek thoughts!

It always takes a while to wrap your head around extreme
glitchy stuff. Some people never get their head around it. I
think the process of getting your head 'around' such
abstract rhythms is one of extracting order from the
apparent randomness, working out the rules of the song as a
system.

So in a sense, your mind is being 'programmed' to
think that it's good, because the longer you are exposed to
the abstract rhythm, the better able you become to separate
the backbone of the rhythm from the arrhythmical chaff. Once
it becomes comprehensible, it becomes enjoyable.

See: the systemising thread.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-02 07:44 [#01219276]
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music is an aestethic thing, not a mathematical equation. if
you like it, you like it, if you don't, you shouldn't
pressure yourself through endless sessions of listening
simply because you think there is meaning in it. Music is
about feelings and emotions, not the mind. FUCK THE MIND!
FUCK MIDI!


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 07:49 [#01219285]
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of course there is no meaning in it. we imbue meaning in it
because that is what our minds do, they see patterns in
everything. they're especially attuned to detecting change,
and music is full of change.

Music is
about feelings and emotions, not the mind.


So where do feelings and emotions occur? Hmm, Mr Drunken
Philosopher? ;)


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-02 07:53 [#01219293]
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to me, the mind is nothing more than a communication device
between your soul (not in the traditional sense of the word,
more as the collection of your "feelings." the "primal"
being) and your thoughts (which, IMO, can't possibly come
from a grey blob with electricity in it). The brain recieves
instructions and send the necessary electrical impulses for
the action to be performed. Much like a computer.. the
computer is CAPABLE of performing THOUSANDS of mathematical
operations, but you have to TELL it to do it first.


 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-02 07:54 [#01219294]
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whoops: the first sentence is supposed to read "[...] the
BRAIN is nothing more [...]"


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2004-06-02 07:57 [#01219302]
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ah..it makes perfect sense now. i was concerned for a
second.


 

offline VLetr from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-02 07:58 [#01219303]
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thoughts (which, IMO, can't possibly come
from a grey blob with electricity in it)


We are coming from very different premise sets here then. To
be honest, I don't really have the stamina for a big
neuro/consciousness debate today. So let's just shake hands
and decide what our favourite autechre track du jour is!

Me: drane (peel session 1)


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-06-02 08:00 [#01219307]
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Wrong.


 

offline victorash from Bucharest (Romania) on 2004-06-02 08:47 [#01219378]
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I find Confield very musical and elaborated. Well, I have a
problem with AE&Hafler Trio colaboration :)


 


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