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Did anyone watch this tonight? I understand how people move the glass on the oujia board subconciously or whatever but when theat girl acted as a medium at the end and the little girls voice i thought it was fucking scary and was that bit a spirit or not? I mean I know Jane was alive but who was the spirit? |
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They shouldnt trivialise this stuff on tv its irresponsible. I wonder how many people will get involved in it after seeing that. Not good IMO |
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you people should explain to us non-UKish people what you are talking about. I understand it's a tv show... with nudity? |
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the guy is a fake that Russian Roulette thing that he did was a total sham i refuse to watch his stuff |
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It's not fake. That was live and it was live tonight. Theres no dodgy camera cutting like there is with Blaine's shows. And besides its not magic its mind controls. Derren hosted a live seance on tv tonight in UK and it was fucking spooky at the end when that ball glided through the air. Noone moved that cos there were only installed night vision cameras in the room and everyone was clearly sat still holding hands round the table. Scariest thing Ive ever seen anyway and im not easily scared. |
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yes the Russion Roulette was live, but it was also fake Channel 4 even admitted that it was fake |
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The seance tonight wasn't live. The Russian Roulette was not fake. Derren Browne is great. I predicted that "jane" was a faked character and made up. Derren Browne is great. |
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if it wasn't faked, why did Channel 4 admit that it was? and do you really think that a TV channel would allow someone to be shot dead on live Television? |
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Derren always shows his working to an extent which is why he's great. It's all about the sub-concious mind. Thought Jane would be alive too but not sure what went on with the spirit at the end. 'Jane' or the girl in the photo did exist though as she appeared at the very end. |
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did anyone see his chess thing? it was so clever. i much prefer it when he's doing clever psychological stuff.... clevercleverclever |
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If you want to know more or what were talking about: http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/M/mindc ontrol/ |
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Well, Derren Browne came out and said it wasn't fake, so take your pick. There was a slight delay in transmission, so if he'd died, it wouldn't have been shown. |
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ah yeah they have actually shown his show here in sweden.. well atleast the first season. |
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it was all very obvious what was going to happen from the start. unfortuntely without the aid of some paper i cannot demostrate it but there was a 5-1 chance that jane would be picked, therefore a probable outcome that 10 would pick jane and 2 would pick someone else. from then on i watched in hysterics as the gullable people were gradually sucked in. fair play to him. there were lots of other pointers to give it all away. the phonecalls made to him which were broadcast at the breaks were from a handful of succeptable people that just by chance had something odd happen at the time (and by chance, i mean 2 million people watching, 20,000 willing to phone in, 200 perhaps experienced something odd, it all pads out). when he marked a card with an X to choose who the medium would be he is adept enough with cards to easily make the person who he would like to choose the X by throwing the cards on the table and letting people pick them. as for putting people into states of increased succeptability, he's done that a million times before, and he's very good at it. overall, i enjoyed it immensly. |
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Just a powerful way of showing what he can do. But still how did that girl know Jane's story and why did she speak like a little girl? And the stuff moving? Looked too convincing to me. |
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That's the beauty with Derren - there are things that are easily explained, but he does shit that's just baffling! Like, at the start, when he told that girl about her recently deceased Grandmother, Nora. |
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EVerything he did was psychological. If anyone ever saw what he did with the advertising bods, then I recon that's what he did with this |
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ermmm.. as much as I love Derren Brown (I really do, he is one of my favorite people) - His tricks are quite obvious to figure out if you ever see them twice... The gun trick was really old - Just a case of turning the barrel and feeling which chamber's live through the hammer.. The whole rest of that show was a distraction from that. Still, a little risky! And it did get me when I first saw it! Only the second time when I wasn't so caught up in it I saw the "trick". The seance wasn't live tonight. First, everyone would pick that girl if they followed the instructions around the grid - I tried the same thing starting on different people and always arrived there - Straight forward - The kind of trick you see on the back of cerial packets. The thing you have to realise about the show was that everyone involved was under hypnosis. It was very clear - I have had hypnotherapy before, so it's not hard to spot! He even admitted he'd chosen the most "suggestible" people possible - All incredibly easy to hypnotize. He would have hypnotized them together as a group before the show - Maybe even suggesting it was a relaxation exercise - And maybe even many hours earlier. The whole show was just about the hypnosis - Much of the information was planted in the volenteers before hand - The rest was fairly obviously "lead" and induced by his own suggestions - Which were clear as day throughout. It didn't really have anything to do with real seances, as I don't think it's customary to find incredibly suggestible people and put them all under hypnotic trance. But it was a great show, and he's a very clever bloke. |
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i like him alot i loved the bit on his show where he asked cabby to take him to the millenium eye and the cabby was right next to it but couldnt find it. he fuked that guy up lol |
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well it's totaly possible to put people in a trance almost instantly, like he did on the tube to make people forget the stop they're waiting for, or making people fall asleep when they answer the phone, so he may have done it on camera just before the "things" start to happen. |
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that advertising one was good! the teddy bear heaven, or something? |
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Yeah I guess instant hypnosis may be possible - Although I've not been able to find out anything about it. I think there is often a lot off camera to many of Derren Browns' tricks - A lot like with David Blane - I would imagine, especially on his street tricks, that he gets a fair few misses and cock-ups. The people falling asleep from the phone call thing, I would suspect they have been properly hypnotized before hand - Simply because a technique like that would be exploited a hell of a lot if it were possible to do that kind of thing on a regular person in a normal state of mind... You can certainly hypnotize certain people quite easily, without them realizing, but, as far as I know, it still requires complete relaxation and the right setting and things - It's not something you could do to someone if they weren't prepared to lie down and listen to your voice for a few minutes... Unless maybe there are other ways to do it!? You could de-rail trains and crash aircraft if it were that easy though - Terrorists would never have to leave their sofas. It's easy to forget, Derren Brown is really a magician first and foremost - He just dresses it up as pure mind tricks and psychology - But I'd say that only accounts for maybe 1/3rd of his act... He's a lot like a street magician in the way he edits his tricks I think. |
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I didn't watch this show. But I did see the Russian Roulette thing. It wasn't a sham, it was exactly what he said it was.. an excercise in predicting which chamber his volunteer will have loaded the bullett into. Or did you miss the first hour of footage? The whole thing was about picking a guy who was a terrible liar, easily predictable and wide open to Derren's subtle influence. Even if (as police sources at the undisclosed location claimed following the transmission of the show) the rounds in the gun were blanks, he still guessed right. Claiming that the rounds were live and that he could die is all just publicity for the programme. It wouldn't have generated half as much interest otherwise. By and large, the viewing public are only attracted to a show via the promise of sex and death. But Brown even said right at the start of the show that all he was going to do was a variation on the old cup&ball trick. To be honest, I find his smaller tricks more entertaining. Anyone that saw the one with the advertising execs will know what I mean. His most interesting stuff is all about the power of suggestion on ordinary people in ordinary situations. The seance-thing sounds a bit gimmicky, but that seems to be the direction he's chosen to go in in order to gain more publicity. One disappointing thing is that he seems to explain what he's doing less and less these days. When he first turned up on TV a few years ago he was trying to move away from the illusion of 'magic' and present what he was doing for what it really is.. now, however he seems to be returning to a more mystical format. Which gets boring fast, for me at least. I did like his 9 simulataneous games of chess trick the other week though. |
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he is great. he got the medium to give the details by suggestion |
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He reminds me of that Roald Dahl story, about Henry Sugar. |
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That's a great story. |
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yes |
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Yup, that whole book of short stories is ace! |
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Yeah, I really liked the one about the pickpocket (or 'fingersmith' as he called himself) as well. |
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I think he always said they were blanks in the gun, but they would still hurt or kill him or something anyway. I think. And with the seance, werent you supposed to be able to do something at home? The advert said to get letters of the alphabet arranged on a table, and a glass. I didn't watch it felled into sleep. |
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