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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 03:43 [#01216024]
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.... in 2 weeks, thursday.
I'm so bloody excited it's unreal. I go for 2 weeks martial arts training with the top japanese master teachers. It'd be like going from messing with an 8mm video camera to working on the set of the latest film from your fave director. (Kubrick, if he was alive)
So anyone got any thoughts on Japan?
As well as the training i can't wait for the food, women, architecture, and just the whole godsamn alieness of it all.
Ever since "Shogun" aired in the 80's i've had a thing for the place. I used to watch the Sumo on ch4, i love the films of Kurasawa and Ozu and i've been doing Japanese martial arts for 6 years. Lets go!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2004-05-31 03:55 [#01216030]
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japan rocks id love to go
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-05-31 03:57 [#01216033]
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wow, you're going to japan - that's really cool. i want to go there some day.
it just so happens i came across this site today LAZY_TITLE and when i was searching for that site again just now, i found this one LAZY_TITLE
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 04:10 [#01216039]
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yeh... i'm a little bewildered by the etiquette stuff but i'll be in Tokyo and they're well used to ignorant "gaijin" there. I'll be going with my instructor who's been there 6 times already so i'll just follow his lead - he's extremely big on doing things right. I've been told that i'll be floored by the gorgeousness of the women. Key_secret knows what i mean!
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scheme88
from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 04:18 [#01216044]
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welcome!! KEYFUMBLER where do you stay in japan? if you have a taste for martial arts, i will recommend watching K-1 in nagoya.
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scheme88
from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 04:22 [#01216047]
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ah ok... tokyo :D
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 04:23 [#01216049]
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Domo scheme88!
I'll be staying in a town called Noda, north of Tokyo.
Thanks for the link but i am actually more intertested in Kobudo, not sports martial arts. Have a look here
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scheme88
from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 04:30 [#01216052]
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coooooool!! indeed :D
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 04:33 [#01216053]
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Here is a clip of Hatsumi Sensei in action at a seminar in America a few years ago
give it a minute to load up
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-31 04:35 [#01216055]
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sounds awesome. don't hurt anyone! i wonder if you'll ever come back to old europe...
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diablo
on 2004-05-31 04:37 [#01216056]
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beware, the furniture, walls etc are all made of pasta, you could easily fall through a building while pissed
cool as fk place though!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-31 04:39 [#01216058]
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"you could easily fall through a building"
haha, be sure to have camera on.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 04:42 [#01216059]
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i'll be taking pictures every 6 seconds
i''l be doing a live journal thingy too.....
if i go to another town in Ireland, i get excited - never mind the other side of the planet!!
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scheme88
from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 05:43 [#01216111]
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wow nipou! awesome. is he a ninja?
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-05-31 05:44 [#01216112]
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Have fun! Take some pictures and post them here!
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 06:49 [#01216173]
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"is he a ninja?"
No - he just teaches martial arts used by ninja but mostly martial arts used by Samurai. In fact, ultimately, these different arts contained the same things, just with different flavours and sometimes, different philosophies.
Most people who train in this martial art started off because of the "ninja" conection, but after training a while, you realise that that is actually a very very small part of it and not nearly as mysterious as movies make you think.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 07:07 [#01216191]
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great KEYfriend! also, r40f, thanks for the links...
How expensive is japan really? I mean for fruits/vegetables? How much for non organic / how much for organic food?
if anyone knows, please let me know. Also, what fruits are / are not available?
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2004-05-31 07:54 [#01216247]
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i believe you like this pic
Hope you enjoy magical mystery tours in Japan :)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 07:57 [#01216251]
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nice pic...
do you know the answer to the question I posted in my previous post in this thread?
please answer, if you do.
thanks.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 07:57 [#01216253]
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its a good pic!
what are my chances of finding a clubh playing some good laptop/braindance music? is there a massive underground scene going on with electronica?
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 08:00 [#01216258]
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Biggest club in Japan:
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 08:05 [#01216261]
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How popular are noodles as fastfood in Japan?
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2004-05-31 08:10 [#01216263]
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well... i think vegitable and fruit is not more expesive than you think.
i don't know details of that cause i recently don't buy it. Drinking fresh fruits drinks is my habit and it is enough for my
health..
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2004-05-31 08:14 [#01216265]
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sorry that i couldn't answer against your questions precisely..
i can't say clearly though we are able to buy many kinds of
rvegitable and fruits which is not from japan because foreign super markets invading in my country. for instance Carrefour etc..
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2004-05-31 08:18 [#01216270]
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Apologies for my ignorance. Actually i am not staying in KANTO area where located in west japan. Hence i am unable to give you details of it :( Probably Tj will be familiar with this matter,im sure..
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 08:33 [#01216321]
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thanks for your answers! peace!
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Unseenmachine
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 09:47 [#01216404]
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Hey Keyfumbler, are u actually going to get to meet Hatsumi??? How long have u been training? Here's a nice interview with Masaaki about his 1st meeting with Takamatsu...
Dr. Hatsumi meets Takamatsu for the First Time
By Masaaki Hatsumi
(This is from Dr. Hatsumi's 1983 book Ninja Submission in which he is writing about his first meeting with Toshitsugu Takamatsu.)
"I have always loved budo since I was very small. I attended many dojos to be stronger. I trained in Kendo, Karate, Aikido & boxing. I was confident with Judo, as I had a 4th Dan. I taught judo at the US army base when I was in my early 20's. I enjoyed throwing those big Americans. However, one soldier held my arm with a Waza (technique) similar to onikudaki. I pretended that it was nothing, but I knew he beat me. Since those guys actually fought in war, they must have studied various Waza. From that experience, I started to doubt what I had been doing. While I looked for a Budo which is complete and almighty, someone suggested a tremendous Sensei. This Sensei was Master Toshitsugu Takamatsu."
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Unseenmachine
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 09:47 [#01216405]
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"I went to Kashihara City in Nara to see master Takamatsu . I had a match with him. Though he was in his 70's, I was thrown about like a child even though I was 26 years old and full of confidence. The pain his skill gave to me was different from any pain I had suffered before. I had only experienced cold pain, while he gave me hot pain. It was as if something would explode - I don't know how to say this, but it was as if my blood would be all sucked up and I felt as if I would be killed right away. He didn't give me just one gyaku, but four or five of them at the same time, and I could not tell where the pain came from. I knew that this was what I was looking for. I asked to become his student right away. This was in 1957. At that time, Master Takamatsu did not take any new students. Since then until he passed away, he did not teach his mastery to anybody but me. There were people who received menkyo (manuals, or certificates) and opened a school bearing a similar name, but they did not learn from him personally. I was chosen as his successor, so to speak. At that time, I was still living in Noda City , Chiba , and holding an office to fix broken bones. Therefore, I left my house Saturday evenings, learned from my master and came home Sunday evenings. I continued this way of training for 15 years until Master passed away."
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Unseenmachine
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 09:48 [#01216408]
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"The more you learn about Master Takamatsu, the more you can tell that he went through very harsh training himself. For example, the thickness of his nails were 1/5 inch. He couldn't cut them with scissors. He used wire cutters. When he trained in the mountains at a young age, he hit rocks with his finger tips. He still used his nails to hit us. His nails were his weapons. In this way, his training was not as easy as sport. One cold day in winter, he suggested we go out for training. In this kind of weather, first we warmed up with Sake & went out. All of a sudden, he pulled his sword and asked me to catch it. When you work against real swords, you can not hesitate. So when the sword came to me, I just put my hands to it. I was able to catch it. Since it was so cold and my hands were numb and I did not try to grab it, it worked."
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 09:59 [#01216413]
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yep! Thats where i'm going..... do you train in Bujinkan? I've been training 6 years in total (spread over about 12 years)... most of it was with people who hadn't trained directly with Hatsumi in ages. The past year and a half i found teachers who regularily go to Japan. different level shit!
its gonna be a total mindfuck
...like going from using etch-a-sketch to hanging out with Monet!
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Unseenmachine
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 10:18 [#01216428]
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Cool, I'm damn envious! I went to the Togakure Ryu Ninjustsu school in Leeds from age 12 to 16, I'm 26 now so there's been a long break... My interest seems to have been rekindled of late, I'm rereading Maasaki's "Ninjutsu - History And Tradition" which was apparantly mostly ghost written By Brian Mccarthy.. Yeah take as many pics as u can, and I for 1 will be very interested in hearing the tales of ur meeting with the man himself on your return.. :)
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 10:25 [#01216433]
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Hey man.. you have to make it your business to get back into it if it feels liek your been pulled in that direction. Many folks have come and gone in this art - you mentioned one already.
There are people out there who have kept up with the real deal through all the politics and bullshit and its never too late to jump on board. I recomend Peter Kings Dojo in Croydon. He has ties to my instructor and is one of the main European guys.
As Hatsumi said 20 years ago "keep going". Its that simple.
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scheme88
from Tokyo (Japan) on 2004-05-31 10:36 [#01216446]
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i see. i heard "togakureryu-ninpo" and was reminded of "ninja".
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-31 10:41 [#01216449]
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yes scheme88, unfortuneatly "ninja" are very poplular in movies and cartoon and so people, even in Japan, thinks any school calling itself Ninpo is just silly tricks. There are plenty of books and stuff by Hatsumi, dispelling these myths. I'm part of an organisation that has Togakure Ryu Ninpo in its trachings but mostly we study budo.
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Unseenmachine
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 10:54 [#01216463]
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Just looking at his site now, Peter King - a personal student of Hatsumi Soke and Bujinkan Dojo Shihan, with assistant instructors of Shidoshi rank (+ 5th Dan). Hmm I might go along an have a gander....
I still have a lot of my old equipment, Bokkens Kama's... Though my Tabi's no longer fit :)
I'm also interested in starting Kendo, but the price of the armor seems a tad extravigant...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2004-05-31 11:44 [#01216515]
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I WANT TO GO
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 13:14 [#01216606]
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bigtime envious - check out the record stores mate cos the likes of squarepushers - feed me wierd things in japan has 2 bonus tracks and theres sooo many more cd with extra tracks - japanese import cd's are taking over my collection slowly but surely - and i'm of the belief that they are mastered and made better in japan
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-31 13:30 [#01216621]
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but aren't they MUCH more expensive? people have said japan is like among the most expensive countries (but Sweden isn't that far from it I think, and neither is the UK)...
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GIR
from Easton on 2004-05-31 13:34 [#01216623]
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bastardo....i plan on going to yokohama next year to study abroad.....tell me more about the womens! the lifestyle! things to eat,,...gah....so many questions..
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2004-05-31 16:54 [#01216815]
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the way...
he who makes his underpants out of badger skin will not suffer lice.
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-31 18:06 [#01216935]
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to get imported i'd say generally yes - but not if you go to japan - i'd bet they'd be more reasonably priced - i got the feed me wierd things cd for $11 the other day from someone in japan
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-05-31 20:07 [#01216998]
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Catapult express?
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-31 20:19 [#01217006]
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I lived in Japan for a year after I graduated High-School. I was in the rotary exchange program and went a Japanese Highschool for 12 months. It was the best time of my life. I felt free from everything I knew. You're going to love it, man
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2004-05-31 21:58 [#01217045]
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funny, i'm going to japan two weeks after you are.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-01 02:29 [#01217105]
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cool.
I'd really like if someone sorted out this whole expensive-issue with me... Is really (and I mean the bigger cities) Japan expensive?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-06-01 02:32 [#01217107]
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it depends. If you're a tourist, they are. If you are from Japan, they're not. It will always be like that, and it doesn't only apply to japan.. think about it.. when tourists come to your country, don't they stay at more upscale hotels that cost a lot of money just so that they can be safe? but if YOU want to stay at some hotel in your country, you'll mostly know where it's safe and cheap, so you'll spend less money on a hotel.
(btw: did you upload that track you were working on, _secret?)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-06-01 02:33 [#01217110]
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yes I bumped the thread for you! Check it out, it's in the "top 10".
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