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offline pf from Finland on 2004-05-30 05:19 [#01214751]
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Where to get realistic Drum samples and samples of old funk
recordings or classical music?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-30 05:46 [#01214763]
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Sample direct from records (old 70s 7"s), clean up in
wavelab/soundforge and then slice in recycle. If that's like
too much hard work, buy a sample CD of breaks. Zero G do
good ones.

Classical music isn't know for its breaks, so I'm assuming
you mean classical music as a seperate thing? Strings are
pretty good as multiple note sample sets (refills or
soundfonts), but it can be hard/time consuming to program if
you want to get the down/up of the bowing or varying lengths
of the bow used at different speeds- to even begin to
approach one that could fool a violinist/bass player etc.
you'd need up and down bowing, at different speeds/with
different lengths of the bow used (as well as pizzicato,
etc.) and it'd take absolutely ages to program (Ie you'd
need about a dozen samplers each with multi-note samples of
the scale(s) used).

Brass is a bit easier, but it's probably because I can't
play any brass and hence don't notice any of the little
nuances like I've pointed out with the strings.

If you're looking at using little loops (as opposed to
single notes), it's worth bearing in mind that a lot of good
classical music is fairly complex and the music needs
several bars for the context to become clear. Whereas a lot
of dance music is made with 1/2/4 bar loops that sound good
on their own, classical ones (obviously with some
exceptions) would tend to be longer.


 

offline goodbyegonzaguo from Edinburgh (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-30 06:19 [#01214794]
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As Ceri said get some break samples and slice it in
recycle to build your own library of drum sounds.

With classical music I would opt for full blown orchestral
sounds which can then be mapped onto a sampler, but make
sure you get a slow chord/section that last for a while with
little variation so that the upper keys don't simply sound
speed up...or be more patient and do as Ceri says.
Also if you use Reaktor feeding classical wav into the
instrument 'plasma' can give very nice ambient pads...


 

offline zazen on 2004-05-30 06:55 [#01214822]
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lots of funk loops here:
http://www.phatdrumloops.com

they are probably illegal (i.e. not copyright-cleared)
though
but unless you get round to making any money from them
no-one will care


 

offline pf from Finland on 2004-05-30 08:51 [#01214941]
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What is the program that i should start using for making
some "beats" or something?


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-30 08:59 [#01214944]
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"Where to get realistic Drum samples and samples of old funk

recordings or classical music?"

havn't you answered your own question?



 

offline zazen on 2004-05-30 10:08 [#01215002]
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i like Reason 2.5
Propellerheads Reason Site
(there is also a forum on that site where you can talk about
music-making)

i hear that FruityLoops is also pretty good for getting
started by I havent used it

Also if you have a Mac then GarageBand is supposed to be
good


 

offline zazen on 2004-05-30 10:09 [#01215004]
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Finland rocks, by the way.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-05-30 10:33 [#01215032]
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You could do the traditional thing and dig for some records,
trying to find funk records with breaks. But breaks can be
found in any genre.


 

offline brokephones from Londontario on 2004-05-30 10:34 [#01215034]
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Well... any genre that uses a live drummer ;P


 

offline pf from Finland on 2004-05-30 13:33 [#01215287]
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I wasnt talking about breaks or drumloops, only the sounds,
you know a raw hit, a hihat, stuff like that, just ones that
sound like acoustic drums? you know?

And, I may download that demo of Reason, but i heard that
you cant use VSTI's with it? is the sampler there any good?

zazen = Thank you, Finland is quite nice, where are you
from?



 

offline zazen on 2004-05-30 13:47 [#01215291]
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Reason can't use VSTIs, but it has plenty of built in
samplers and synths and FX units that are cool anyway
The sampler in Reason is fine for playing back samples
To record samples you will have to use the recording
facilities of your PC, and a wave editor to tidy the samples
up. Or just take samples directly from CDs by ripping them
to WAVs

Reason also comes with 1 Gig of samples (individual drums,
drum loops, classical instruments, the lot) when you buy
it.

Reason is fun to work with, and the manuals are very good,
i'd recommend trying out the demo.

(re: finland: i'm from the uk, but once went out with a
finnish girl so i visited finland a few times ...)


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-30 14:09 [#01215300]
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I doesn't matter, whats stopping you from cutting out single
hits from within breaks? Works wonderfully for me. Reason is
very powerfull, the samplers in that program are superb.


 


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