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pf
from Finland on 2004-05-30 05:19 [#01214751]
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Where to get realistic Drum samples and samples of old funk recordings or classical music?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-30 05:46 [#01214763]
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Sample direct from records (old 70s 7"s), clean up in wavelab/soundforge and then slice in recycle. If that's like too much hard work, buy a sample CD of breaks. Zero G do good ones.
Classical music isn't know for its breaks, so I'm assuming you mean classical music as a seperate thing? Strings are pretty good as multiple note sample sets (refills or soundfonts), but it can be hard/time consuming to program if you want to get the down/up of the bowing or varying lengths of the bow used at different speeds- to even begin to approach one that could fool a violinist/bass player etc. you'd need up and down bowing, at different speeds/with different lengths of the bow used (as well as pizzicato, etc.) and it'd take absolutely ages to program (Ie you'd need about a dozen samplers each with multi-note samples of the scale(s) used).
Brass is a bit easier, but it's probably because I can't play any brass and hence don't notice any of the little nuances like I've pointed out with the strings.
If you're looking at using little loops (as opposed to single notes), it's worth bearing in mind that a lot of good classical music is fairly complex and the music needs several bars for the context to become clear. Whereas a lot of dance music is made with 1/2/4 bar loops that sound good on their own, classical ones (obviously with some exceptions) would tend to be longer.
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goodbyegonzaguo
from Edinburgh (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-30 06:19 [#01214794]
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As Ceri said get some break samples and slice it in recycle to build your own library of drum sounds.
With classical music I would opt for full blown orchestral sounds which can then be mapped onto a sampler, but make sure you get a slow chord/section that last for a while with little variation so that the upper keys don't simply sound speed up...or be more patient and do as Ceri says.
Also if you use Reaktor feeding classical wav into the instrument 'plasma' can give very nice ambient pads...
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zazen
on 2004-05-30 06:55 [#01214822]
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lots of funk loops here: http://www.phatdrumloops.com
they are probably illegal (i.e. not copyright-cleared) though
but unless you get round to making any money from them no-one will care
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pf
from Finland on 2004-05-30 08:51 [#01214941]
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What is the program that i should start using for making some "beats" or something?
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-30 08:59 [#01214944]
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"Where to get realistic Drum samples and samples of old funk
recordings or classical music?"
havn't you answered your own question?
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zazen
on 2004-05-30 10:08 [#01215002]
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i like Reason 2.5 Propellerheads Reason Site (there is also a forum on that site where you can talk about music-making)
i hear that FruityLoops is also pretty good for getting started by I havent used it
Also if you have a Mac then GarageBand is supposed to be good
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zazen
on 2004-05-30 10:09 [#01215004]
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Finland rocks, by the way.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-30 10:33 [#01215032]
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You could do the traditional thing and dig for some records, trying to find funk records with breaks. But breaks can be found in any genre.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-30 10:34 [#01215034]
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Well... any genre that uses a live drummer ;P
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pf
from Finland on 2004-05-30 13:33 [#01215287]
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I wasnt talking about breaks or drumloops, only the sounds, you know a raw hit, a hihat, stuff like that, just ones that sound like acoustic drums? you know?
And, I may download that demo of Reason, but i heard that you cant use VSTI's with it? is the sampler there any good?
zazen = Thank you, Finland is quite nice, where are you from?
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zazen
on 2004-05-30 13:47 [#01215291]
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Reason can't use VSTIs, but it has plenty of built in samplers and synths and FX units that are cool anyway
The sampler in Reason is fine for playing back samples To record samples you will have to use the recording facilities of your PC, and a wave editor to tidy the samples up. Or just take samples directly from CDs by ripping them to WAVs
Reason also comes with 1 Gig of samples (individual drums, drum loops, classical instruments, the lot) when you buy it.
Reason is fun to work with, and the manuals are very good, i'd recommend trying out the demo.
(re: finland: i'm from the uk, but once went out with a finnish girl so i visited finland a few times ...)
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-30 14:09 [#01215300]
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I doesn't matter, whats stopping you from cutting out single hits from within breaks? Works wonderfully for me. Reason is very powerfull, the samplers in that program are superb.
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