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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 02:12 [#01207703]
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I mentionned it before in the Grime thread; but I thought I'd give Peel his own Grime thread, in case anyone's interested in listening.
Show starts 10pm BST (GMT+1) tonight (Wednesday) on BBC Radio 1 (97-99FM). Worldwide listeners should be able to stream the show as it happens, and the BBC always provide realplayer reapeats of their shows online for about a week after the original broadcast date.
Peel's site says:
"This week DJ Eastwood and friends will showcasing the music some call Grime, and others call Sublow. Whatever you want to call it, Grime is taking over, and you'd be a fool to miss it. Grime records can be found on labels like Black Ops, Souljah and Rephlex, so if you like what you hear, make sure you get you're local record store to stock some.
DJ Eastwood will be joined by DJ Krafty and MC's G Double E, Purple, I.E and I.Q, and the whole event is coming live from Maida Vale studios, London."
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-26 02:15 [#01207710]
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Should be good.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 02:21 [#01207720]
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For more "Grime"-related shennanigans:
bbc 1Xtra
www.dubplate.net
Rephlex Records
*Disclaimer* Acrid Milk Hall is not responsible for the content of other websites. Acrid Milk Hall is not responsible for the quality of so-called "Grime" music. Acrid Milk Hall would like to stress that he is not the UK ambassador of Grime; he has just heard a few tracks that he really liked & thought it might be worth finding out more about. Naturally, Acrid Milk Hall's community spirit meant he thought others might like the opportunity to hear more Grime & thus make their own minds up. John Peel is not Acrid Milk Hall's father. Colours and sizes may vary from those displayed.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 04:37 [#01207987]
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i want that grime CD. And the new beastie boys CD, and the killers new album. Methinks spendy spendy is nigh
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-26 04:44 [#01207995]
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i like it so far...... listening to j da flex..
....doesn't sound like a whole new genre though but it nice n sexy
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 05:13 [#01208019]
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Aphextriplet: I went to buy the Grime CD on Monday, only to discover it was the vinyl release date (which Rephlex didnt state clearly).. The CD's not out til June 7th. Not that I can afford it either, but that's what moeny's for, eh? The Grime stuff that Vibert/Paradinas played on Saturday was good, and Rephlex DJs played even more of it at Moog the other week.. Ah well, it's only a couple of weeks wait.
KEYFUMBLER: It's definitely not a "whole new genre" (I'm not sure there has ever been such a thing). For me, I've always liked 2step beats, but I've failed to connect with virtually all garage I've heard. Grime has caught my attention by marrying the rhythmic approach of garage with the aesthetics of electronica/techno.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 05:14 [#01208022]
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Yes.. "Sexy" does seem like an appropriate choice of wording..
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 05:15 [#01208023]
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i prefer 'MAMA MIA'
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 05:18 [#01208030]
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Or perhaps the name that Beaker from the Muppet Show made..
I'm really looking forward to the session on Peel's show now.
More so than I was before. Hurry up Monday 7th June, I haven't bought a new CD for too long.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 05:23 [#01208045]
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By the way Mr. Triplet, Stealth are hosting Andrew Weatherall & Radioactive Man (AKA Two Lone Swordsmen) on July 24th. Don't know if that interests you?
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 05:24 [#01208049]
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unfortunately my selfish cousin is getting married on that date. Then im off to prague for my birthday the day after. Ah its a tough life.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 05:34 [#01208083]
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You must be really disappointed.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 05:35 [#01208085]
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i am, im gonna have to get drunk, fondle the bridesmaids, then fly to prague still drunk to get drunk
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 05:36 [#01208089]
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RE: My former post about Beaker from the Muppet Show. I meant the NOISE he makes.. not the "name."
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 05:38 [#01208091]
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Ah, bridesmaids..
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 05:54 [#01208122]
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yeah theyre not very challenging, i was thinking maybe i should 'up the stakes' and try to bed the groom. Im sure kate wont mind... no wait... she probably would. Im starting to think this is all a really bad idea. DAMN YOU ACRID, you started this evil thread.
i am ashamed.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 06:07 [#01208135]
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Let this be a warning to all of you..
Behold, the unnatural influence of GRIME
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roer-ei
from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-26 06:10 [#01208138]
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is there samples online somewhere? non-realplayer samples
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 06:22 [#01208147]
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samples of a show that hasnt been aired yet? No Marty, not yet.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 06:27 [#01208149]
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Great Scott!
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roer-ei
from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-26 06:28 [#01208150]
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shut up you silly worm i mean samples of this Grime stuff of course!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 06:46 [#01208159]
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That sort of negative attitude will get you nowhere, sonny..
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 06:48 [#01208163]
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Have you followed the links I left near the top of the thread?
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 06:50 [#01208167]
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silly worm!! thats the best insult ever.
*yoink*
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-26 09:03 [#01208351]
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Bump.
I'm leaving the office now, so I thought I'd bring this show to the attention of anyone who missed the thread earlier.
I'll be having a listen tonight, so I'm sure to be back on this one tomorrow. It would be nice to hear what others think.
Laters.
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roer-ei
from Netherlands, The on 2004-05-26 13:10 [#01208910]
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i agree silly worm is great if you construct insults where you put it at the end of a sentence you can decide on the fly wether you're going to say worm or whore depending on the look on the persons face during the lead up to the word
and the dubplate.net link has .wma's! how awesome is that
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-05-26 15:23 [#01209132]
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ITS ON!!!
*raving*
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clint
from Silencio... (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 15:27 [#01209140]
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It seems wierd non-UK people are enjoying this... cool though!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2004-05-26 16:06 [#01209174]
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I thought the 'garage' craze had died down.. :o
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 01:47 [#01209766]
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it's a little bit harder/more glitchy than garage. that was always my problem with most 2step music; all that nasty, glossy production and shit about diamonds and cars totally undermined the beats.
as for last night's set; i haven't heard it in full yet, nor have i heard it at a decent volume on on decent headphones. there were moments that caught my attention though.
i did think it was a pity that there seemed to be so much mc-ing. sure, it works well in a club, but on radio? i guess it did give that budget inner-city pirate radio feel to the whole thing, which was fun.. but the last couple of times i've heard grime tracks dropped alongside electronica (by rephlex djs & luke vibert) it was solely the instrumental stuff; and it worked a treat.
did anyone else listen to the whoel thing? what did you make of it?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-05-27 01:57 [#01209783]
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what the hell kind of piece of shit genre name is Grime? Goodness, it's getting rediculous with all these lame genre names...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 02:19 [#01209827]
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I couldn't agree more. But as the choices seem to be between; sublow, dubstep, techstep, eskibeat/eski & acid-garage, I can see the appeal of chosing a meaningless word.
Funnily enough, I find it less irritating than IDM as a term.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to plug in my analogue washboard and get down to some Ambient Skiffle-Core.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-05-27 02:26 [#01209846]
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eskibeat? What is this, eskimo music?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 02:30 [#01209850]
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Apparently so..
" 'Cos it's cold maan "
I'm not joking, by the way.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-05-27 02:49 [#01209866]
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too much MCing ruined a DnB following over here called Bassbin. They pleyd good tunes but the cunts just kept on laying down their bullshit ryhmes.
a lie a tiny weeny bit though.... or it gets real annoying real quick.
*yer suspect
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diablo
on 2004-05-27 04:26 [#01209971]
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It's UK garage, dunno why they call it grime or whatever... I guess garage is a dirty word to most people.
Lots of pirate stations round here play that stuff all the time. It's pretty cool, nice and lo-fi... lots of energy.
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 04:36 [#01209978]
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as acrid said, garage implies the glossy, uninspired production of artful dodger et al.
labels are annoying but useful shorthand, rather than saying "the underground music associated with this club, that pirate station, this east london postcode, that distorted kick drum.... etc.". only unimaginative producers let the labels define and limit their music.
as aproduct oredfsp ful rtacrid sdodger et aigarage implies the glossy, unini iond, al.
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 04:38 [#01209984]
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haha didn't mean to post that mangled sentence at the end. i was absent-mindedly selecting and dropping text whilst i concentrated on the hushed conversation the office drones next to me were having.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-05-27 04:41 [#01209990]
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hahaahahah
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 04:45 [#01209992]
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Mercedes Bentley vs Versace Armani - DJ Maxximus Dubplate Remix
This track be killer techstep or whatever you want to call it. only £1.99 from boomkat's warp singles campaign!
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diablo
on 2004-05-27 04:46 [#01209994]
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So its you that sends those mangled spam emails then?
Yeah I guess when you say uk garage people think craig david or something. Whatever. It has its moments for me but i'm not crazy about it... but hey music diversity is good, bring it on.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 05:17 [#01210030]
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Bring it on indeed.
Vletr: Loved the mangled sentence, really reenforced your point! Actually made me laugh aloud, causing several people in the office to look my way. Thanks for the shout on the single, too.
JAroen: you win the award for best cat-related avatar I have seen on this here message board.
Diablo: I know that essentially its just a slightly rougher version of some of the underground garage that's been around for quite some time now, but as Vletr said; genre terminology (annoying & meaningless though a lot of it may be) can be quite useful when trying to communicating an idea as complicated as music in a short space of time.. "only unimaginative producers let these labels define and limit their music."
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 05:25 [#01210042]
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yo. hows things? you checked out stealth yet? what you thinking?
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 05:45 [#01210066]
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long time no postie-postie to you my friend.
i'm back in notts these days, working for keep on mag. went to stealth last weekend for luke vibert & mike paradinas. loved it. hows things at the bomb?
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 06:58 [#01210199]
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the bomb is good at the moment. had a quiet month since stealth opened, things getting back to normal now though. stealth is turning out good for the bomb, its not going to kill us off as i once suspected. gutted that i missed vibert, had to work in the end...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 09:11 [#01210434]
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I had this gut feeling that Stealth would be good for the Bomb as well as for Nottingham.
With respect, the Bomb's been able to rest on it's laurels. As far as "proper" clubbing in this city was concerned, the Bomb was it. It's easy for the top dog to get complacent. A little healthy competition from Stealth keeps both of you sharp; as well as giving the public a choice.
Besides, the two venues have such different atmospheres. The Bomb has the whole underground claustrophobic igloo-come-Luke's-uncle's-house-on-Tatooine-in-Star-Wars feel to it. Stealth has the whole, high-ceiling, blacker-than-black angular look to it. They're almost like polar opposites.
Can't believe you guys but Derrick May on the same night as Carl Craig though.. That's a pretty daring way to divide your audiences. I know some people who thought that battle lines were being drawn at that point!
How's Derren by the way. I spotted him in Selectadisc the other day; but it's been so long since I've seen him that he had to do a double take before he (vaguely) recognised me. I guess I did look pretty different from how I usually do, in my office garb.
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VLetr
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-27 09:17 [#01210440]
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acrid, bob: are the bomb and stealth both club nights in nottingham?
me gf lives in notts and we always end up going to shit clubs and boring bars. more info please... dates/locations...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-05-27 09:32 [#01210476]
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Nottingham's full of shit student-oriented clubs (cheesy music, cheap alcopops & sticky carpets) & boring clone-bars (all aluminium & pine).
The Bomb & Stealth are both clubs in Nottingham. They host a variety of nights (electronica, techno, drum&bass, deep house, hiphop, breaks etc). Check the links to their websites for more info than I have time to type here & now.
Both are very good. The Bomb's been around for years. Stealth was started by one of the guys formerly involved with the Bomb and, before that, the Social. It's only been open about a month, but so far it's had a pretty impressive & diverse lineup; the highlight (for me) being Luke Vibert, Mike Paradinas & Ivan Smagghe last weekend.
Can't believe you've never heard of either of them. But at least you know now. Enjoy.
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