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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-25 19:26 [#01207445]
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Discuss.
Personally I really like his work. Maybe not as hard hitting as Autechre but definitely good. I think he is a little underrated actually.
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Clic
on 2004-05-25 19:27 [#01207447]
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I think so.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-05-25 19:27 [#01207448]
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i have tides
apples and bananas i say
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-05-25 19:28 [#01207449]
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maybe older autechre ala tri repetae but there isn't that strong of a connection. i think he's good.
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wimp
on 2004-05-25 19:28 [#01207450]
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I'm a big fan of Tides, and his early work is sentimental as my first "IDM" or whatever. I've given Lilies a listen, but nothing really caught my ear and it hasn't been in heavy rotation on my winamp playlist.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-05-25 19:28 [#01207451]
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i like his music
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Clic
on 2004-05-25 19:29 [#01207453]
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I mean, I'm not really into his stuff.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-25 19:31 [#01207454]
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HA!
I described him in exactly those words, once!
to me, he seems to fill the niche in the market for people who desperately want Autechre to return to their "old-school"-sound, round Amber, possibly even round Incunabula.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2004-05-25 19:33 [#01207458]
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'tides' sound nothing like ae. havent yet listened to his latest though.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-25 19:33 [#01207459]
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Yeah, I'd agree with that, but he still makes enjoyable tunes.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-25 19:35 [#01207461]
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I don't like his music.
how is YOUR music going, Lee?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-25 19:36 [#01207463]
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It's not. I have given up and I am just content to listen to other peoples stuff. :P
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2004-05-25 19:37 [#01207467]
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Whatever. I think Arovane is more in Skam Records territory with his work than Warp Records...
But that's between me and my ears...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-25 19:38 [#01207470]
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how dobbinesque.
except with the bonus that you listen to either peoples stuff. :D
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-05-25 19:41 [#01207476]
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listen to his new one! it's pretty good, not great -- but the track 'lilies' is so pretty
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-05-25 19:44 [#01207482]
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either?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-25 19:50 [#01207497]
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oh!
that must be the alcohol KIKCIGN IN!!
ohter. Im eant othe r.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-05-25 19:51 [#01207499]
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ARGGGGHHHHH
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-25 21:34 [#01207556]
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I like Arovane. Sure, the music is/borders on derivative, but everything and everyone is. The selling point for me is the melodies, and The Storm has one of my favorites.
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sons of august
from the sacred cycles on 2004-05-25 23:10 [#01207579]
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team doyobi / fenessz are a poor mans autechre? perhaps...
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Doomed Puppy
from on and off and on and off and on 2004-05-25 23:17 [#01207582]
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I doubt autechre were that original back then.
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disasemble
from United States on 2004-05-26 00:22 [#01207615]
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arovane sounds absolutely nothing like autechre. i still dont get how people can make the connection. other than they both have "beats" and "melodies". theres really no other logical way i can look at it. im not saying that arovane is original in any way, because he definitely isnt. but could someone seriously give me a good connection that doesnt rely on bullshitty reasons? ie "the melodic progressions are very similar"--no, they aren't. and even if they were, you think autechre are original in terms of that? that they "invented" stuff like that? i've heard people drop "amber" as the biggest connection, and even that is only barely connectable and vague to me.
i'm not trying to stir shit, i just honestly thought the whole autechre-sounds-like-arovane thing would have died down by now. but its years later and people still say the same thing about it. its just weird to me.
i also hope that fennesz and team doyobi thing was a joke.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-05-26 00:26 [#01207620]
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i'm a little worried that i'm not going to like the new one... i've heard it once almost a month ago and haven't listened to it since... it sounded pretty, but a little too saccharine and over-produced.... hopefully when i check it out again, my fears will prove unfounded...
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2004-05-26 00:27 [#01207622]
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word on brotha. I agree 110%.
No one has given me a good comparison yet either.
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Skinny
from Frankfurt (Germany) on 2004-05-26 00:48 [#01207638]
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one word Autechres Draft is so bad they use many technics and effects and programming bla bla to produce a track. I can feel nothing about every track on Draft its totally stupid programming they want to show what is possible but the music is bad. I like all from Autechre but Draft is for me absolutely bad sorry
On Arovane music I have feelings and get into a track
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-05-26 01:47 [#01207682]
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I agree 100% with you. I don't get it where they get the connection too autechre. it doesn't sound anything like autechre. complete bullshit!!!!!! it really pisses me off when people say that about arovane. do you people even listen to the music? for fucks sake in what way does the track "Amine" or "tascles 7" sound like any autechre? if you want you can compare everything to autechre. stop doing that and just listen to the music.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-26 01:56 [#01207686]
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The reason I connect arovane and autechre is because they both begin with the letter a you stupid motherfuckers.
Actually it was not a direct musical comparison I was making, it is just that arovane is much more likely to appeal to autechre listeners than, let's say, aphex listeners. Both, for me at least, evoke similar feelings while listening. I appreciate this won't be the case for everyone (especially those who seem more interesting in comparing technical production values) but that doesn't mean you are right in your dismissal of what other people think.
In the same way you could ask if Mike P is the poor mans Aphex. Technically they produce very different sounds but in the general scope of the music they are involved in you can make a comparison.
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-26 02:00 [#01207687]
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And Arovane is OFTEN dismissed as similar but not as good as autechre which is what I was attempting to address.
it really pisses me off when people say that about arovane.
That's a bit fucking childish...why should it bother you?
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2004-05-26 02:29 [#01207741]
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wicked
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-26 02:31 [#01207749]
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haha, you have been making me laugh with your 'wicked' comments. :D
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2004-05-26 02:44 [#01207788]
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why is it childish?
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-26 03:01 [#01207810]
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team doyobi and fennesz a poor man's autechre? What?
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-05-26 03:04 [#01207814]
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If I have to explain, you'll never know. Also, you should change your avatar because it's shit.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-05-26 03:48 [#01207898]
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Silly topic. But I would like to recommend "Icol Diston" where he has collected early works on one release. Strangely these tracks are more complex and edgy than "Tides". The opposite development compared to Autechre.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-05-26 04:02 [#01207931]
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if arovane would be a poor man's autechre, what would funkstorung be? or, according to some, funckarma?
you know what; poor is the rule and rich is the exception. and what does this mean? this means that arovane is the rule and autechre is the exception. so, thank god for the rules, 'cause without them, there wouldnt be exceptions.
stop bashing the poor motherfuckers!
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azatoth233
from tku (Finland) on 2004-05-26 04:54 [#01208003]
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funkstörung is the german autechre....dun see the connection between arovane and autechre....meh
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-05-26 15:40 [#01209152]
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don't quite see the connection either. people who say that must have an under developed hearing or something. he's much more melodic than autechre. sure, i like autechre but at least lately he hasn't been seeing this as a programming contest like some artists...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-05-26 15:56 [#01209164]
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I am listening to Tides right now, and I hear/see/taste/feel no connection to early Autechre. Absolutely none. Except that both are rock solid.
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nacmat
on 2004-05-26 15:59 [#01209166]
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what arovane shall I get first?
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mimi
on 2004-05-26 16:13 [#01209179]
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Arovane has borrowed ideas from autechre but I don't think its anything to use against him. Everyone pretty much has. I like arovane but I find a lot of his tracks besides on the tides album to sound very similiar to each other. In some sense I feel like he writes the same song everytime.
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