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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-20 09:59 [#01197866]
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Let's discuss him. I was quite surprised to find out Warp signed him.
I was quite moved by his tune, Damage II. It's quite beautiful
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-05-20 10:00 [#01197871]
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Quite!
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-20 10:01 [#01197876]
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Wow. I did say quite alot, didn't I? Thats a little bit creepy.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-20 10:01 [#01197878]
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Or perhaps I should say its quite creepy.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-05-20 10:03 [#01197882]
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not at all creepy.
just very ghey.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2004-05-20 10:04 [#01197883]
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quite ghey
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optimus prime
on 2004-07-22 12:29 [#01283421]
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gravenhurst is the best thing on warp.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-22 12:34 [#01283431]
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OOOOOOH CONTROVERSIAL OOOOOOOH
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optimus prime
on 2004-07-22 14:50 [#01283564]
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they are. intelligent dance music used to be for lonely dorks so they could feel special. it still is, but really only for those still into the dead genre. it's like people listening to disco after the fact, only disco was actually musical.
i'm glad that warp have acknowledged this and are signing actual musicians -- which will keep them in business -- rather than annoying, recycled noise that you pretend isn't annoying, recycled noise.
your family and friends are right -- it's a joke.
\m/ GRAVENHURST \m/
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-22 16:12 [#01283652]
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i'll agree that Gravenhurst is one of Warps strongest releases in recent times.
It helped me regain faith in the label after releasing that awful !!! album.
Gravenhurst is one hell of a talented songmaker. "Fog Round the Figurehead" has been doing some serious rotation, as has the whole album.
I'm gonna seek out some older stuff too.
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polynomial
from glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-22 16:20 [#01283658]
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i seen gravenhurst a couple of weeks ago in a glasgow pub, was enjoyable. reminded me of drake and simon and garfunkel. one of his songs was a complete rip off of 'Famous Blue Raincoat' by Leonard Coen.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-22 16:22 [#01283663]
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where was it? stereo or something?
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polynomial
from glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-22 16:25 [#01283667]
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No it was in mono, the small record store/cafe beside the 13th note. it was just a small set. everyone talked the whole way through it though
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-22 16:27 [#01283669]
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in mono? yeah, people in there are a bit rude. i've been to a couple of wee album launches and things there, and there seems to be more "scene whores" than music fans to be honest. good wee record shop though. they stock rare toytronic stuff there. and a shitload of leaf label stuff...can always find stuff i like there.
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polynomial
from glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-22 16:56 [#01283687]
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yeah its a really good store, really cheap too. shame its such a cunt to walk to, i can never be bothered going
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-07-22 19:32 [#01283770]
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i really can't see idm as being a dead genre, since it never was a fad to begin with. it doesn't really have it's non-music based trends to go along with.
also, you are talking about the singer/songwriter genre which easily could be said to have died at the end of the 70's. if it's done now it could be easily called retro, which is the worst thing anyone can do in music.
also, the all out name dropping fest that warp had when discussing the new signing was disgusting.
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optimus prime
on 2004-07-22 21:44 [#01283818]
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it's not retro, it's indie folk. you know -- cool music.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-07-22 23:16 [#01283826]
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mm yes, but that could just be seen as "renaming" - a rather poor attempt at reviving what essentially was a dead genre.
I don't believe in this 'dead genre' thing either. the idea of 'genres' only exists in our heads, it's not like it exists objectively. so maybe the idea of a genre you had thought up doesn't apply anymore for yourself, in other words, you have lost interest in how you defined a genre, but the music still exists, the music is still being made.
it's just such a silly thing to say - 'the genre is dead'.
that said, I want to say that I'm one of the few people who do not mind Warp taking their current route. not to say I like everything they sign at the moment, but I listen to music, not to a fucking label. if I see what they're doing, I certainly still get the feeling they are doing what they want, like they always have.
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optimus prime
on 2004-07-22 23:34 [#01283835]
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you can't deny horror films as a genre, especially splatter films, a subgenre like idm.
genre films, genre books (detective, romance, etc) and yes, genre music. romance novels are for lonely girls and fantasy novels are for lonely boys; they're afraid of fine literature, as it rarely produces the escapism they require. generally, idm is for those too afraid of being labeled for listening to a particular style of actual music; you don't call someone a glitchster for listening to the washing machine noises and three note nintendo melodies of the idm catalogue. you're apprehensive of calling them pretentious, because it's too strange and dorky. you're apprehensive about calling them dorks, because the style is alien and impenetrable. it's a genre of its own, derived from electronica, and devoid of even the simplistic humanities of booty shaking beats inherent in other forms of the electronic music style.
basically, everyone who listens to idm -- and a lot of them had to condition themselves to it first -- is trying too hard.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-08-11 07:18 [#01300908]
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why is this gravenhurst released on warp? I really don't get, no elctronics, mostly a acoustic gitar and some vocals and that's it, I don't get it..
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-08-11 07:32 [#01300924]
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It's good music, so they decided to release it.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-08-11 07:58 [#01300964]
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It's not good music for warp imo
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Strange Times
from Now On on 2004-08-11 17:10 [#01301679]
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I have both of Gravenhurst's releases on mini-disc, they are gorgeous, the guy is a talent. My favourite songs are probably 'Tunnels', 'Meet The Family' and 'Hopechapel Hill'...although they are all great.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-08-11 17:17 [#01301682]
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I said that I thought warp were trying too hard by signing him in the past... but I listened to the album last night and It Is Good. I was wrong.
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hobbes
from age on 2004-08-11 18:23 [#01301708]
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isn't that for them to decide?
write them a mail.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-08-11 22:28 [#01301771]
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i'm downloading it now, tho i must say 'Damage II' is a horrible, horrible name for an acoustic song.
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2004-08-11 22:29 [#01301772]
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II is probably a little hat tip to nick drake.
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-08-11 23:31 [#01301786]
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oh like hazy jane i and ii, etc... hmm, yeah, maybe.
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mimi
on 2004-08-12 03:28 [#01301846]
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yeah, i'm gonna go ahead and be cliche here, but it really fits in great with warps roster of coffee house bull shit.
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