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which shite island of does w M w inhabit? my vote is Caledonia, a stupid merge of Cydonia and Salad. If I was there I'd live in Papua New Guinea, which is a good track don't disagree. holy shit, boredom is lethal |
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when I was little, I was so industrious. The then me would be reading a book right now. Instead I'm sitting here, stewing in bile, contemplating how much I hate everything and coming up with ever larger values. |
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I read a chapter and a half in a book just now, but I'm back. |
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I think he's from Nukulaelae, a stupid merge of Nuclear and Ucelaelae |
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What about Federated states of micronesia? That's a stupid merge of like 90 things, all bad. |
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I think I'm about to explode thinking about nuclear ukuleles. Unfortunately than I started to think about it and stopped laughing. What a sad, sad existence. P.S. I'm not successful yet |
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No respite just yet, you now have to think about Nukufetau, which is a stupid merge of Nukes and Feta cheese. |
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dear sir: thank you for making me laugh out loud while alone in my apartment. I'm gonna put on some FSOL for about 4 seconds. did you see nukulaelae, by the way? it looks . |
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Yeah. But take a look at Nukufaetu. It's a friggin rectangle! PREPOSTEROUS! |
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yeah. those 3-D views are miserable. Must be the result of some volcanic activity--I can't think of another reason there is basically a perimeter of islands around a shallow lagoon (rectangular, like you said). I heard from a friend that some japanese islands had people shooting at passing american vessels for up to 20 years after the war. Eh, that kid was gullible, nevermind |
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I've heard something like that, except I think the story went that it was just one guy on a remote island who was never told the war was over. By the way, ring islands like that are called 'atol's. There are thousands of them. And yeah, they are usually the end result of volcanic activity. |
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Hmm.. It's funny taking the old bromide 'the victors write the history books' and wondering if we've moved past that (yeah right) and what people will know about shit we see now. Yeah, I know about atolls from the bikini atoll (I hunted down video clips of the bomb blowing up a few times--largest warhead dedonated by United States (well, in the public knowledge I guess).. russians detonated a bigger one). What else could make them other than volcanic activity? Maybe some weird plate tectonics.. but maybe that would open up a fissure with magma as well. I hate the feeling that I know absolutely nothing. didn't know that there were so many atolls, thanks for the tip |
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sweet, thanks. I hope I can buy an island and live on it when older. I know of two fuckers that live an an old oil platform (and are even recognized as an independent country I believe), but that sucks (other than the false titles.. ok that sucks a lot too). I may have slightly misspoke with regards to small socks. I have quite a few pairs with tears on the heel due to size+quick podal insertion, and it is indeed pretty miserable. Especially recently when a favorite pair died. Eh, oh well. |
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in monkey island |
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There were , actually. The last of them was found in 1980. (There might be some still out there, of course, but it's getting more and more unlikely for obvious reasons.) Also, . |
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Your first link made my day, and yes the second link is the asshole troop I was talking about. To return the favor I will tell you that I just got bored and proved Euclid's algorithm, and then checked on-line to find that most sites use induction! Losers. Oh yeah let gcd(a, b) = g and a = bn + r (first is just a variable definition and second is standard remainder notation), then a'g = b'gn+r hence r must be multiple of g since otherwise 2nd lemma fails so gcd(a, b) = gcd(b, r) have a nice day |
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self-indulgent bump since I awesome w M w is bored |
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Wow, never have I seen poshnu from so great a height. That map must be innacurate or minimally detailed though, as poshnu is not even labeled?? I have a lot in common with your second message. You eventually learn that reading is pointless because it's a surrogate activity just like art. Understanding can be very very entertaining though. The thing with reading, though, is it is very good when you're doing it. But has very little anticipationable (anticable...?) fun so is delayed with years of videogames. I am going to start reading again despite it's pointlessness though soon. The main reason it's so entertaining in our time is the rate of change. Something really crazy is very near in time for humanity. I like to try to know enough to predict what that will be... and also to know weird things that I can possibly put to use in my other surrogate activity, art (like moire patterns for example). |
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Yes, I agree that the times are definitely spiraling out of control. Humanity is completely overwhelmed by its creations. I'm not just talking about how dependent we are on electronics. Think about how much effort it takes a _group_ of well educated and dedicated thinkers to come up with marginal, incremental improvements to present technology! Juxtapose that with the classical thinking mind, 2200 years ago, who in a day could stumble across 5 amazing discoveries, all in different fields. Yeah, reading is weird. I really have problems taking ideas or suggestions from other people--I only like figuring things out on my own, and utilizing the products of my own mind (not that I am not making any arrogant statements regarding the quality of my own machinations). oh well.. |
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"I've heard something like that, except I think the story went that it was just one guy on a remote island who was never told the war was over." eh heh heh he "It's funny taking the old bromide 'the victors write the history books' and wondering if we've moved past that (yeah right) and what people will know about shit we see now." That is an interesting "bromide" (another word I'm pretty unfamiliar with) scholars do occasionally dig shit up. In the past knowledge/culture was handed down fairly memetically. For example Darwin gets all the credit generally for the theory of evolution. I suppose it's because of the origin of species, a massively replicated meme container. He contributed to it a lot but he borrowed the general idea. In the future it won't matter what people know anyway, as the knowledge of meteor sized artilects will so dwarf us as to make the combined knowledge of humanity laughable in comparison. Eh, maybe. "I hate the feeling that I know absolutely nothing." At least you (probably) don't watch soap operas or WWF wrestling. I got bored and unified all of physics into a grand theory of everything last night when people stopped responding to my messages. I know for a fact that I solved it. At the heart of everything is miniature bananas. I crumbled up my sketches and equations and threw it away in the hopes that I'll forget the conclusions and be able to resolve it 7 years from now when I forget to entertain myself for a good 12 minutes again. |
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maybe your realization is the same that drove to suicide (I just happen to be checking him out at this moment). I say bromide because it sounds like it should be some chemical mixture (and is), but can be used completely differently.. just a private joke. Where do you know the term artilect from? I had to use google--are you a programmer? I think a hypothetical being of our own spawning of vastly superior intelligence would have both the memory and understanding to correctly assess it's predecessors as valuable, so I think key discoveries (calculus, kepler's laws of motion, euclid's algorithm, etc.), will be remember for a long long time.. |
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well i saw this automatig egg peeler in a tv ad, if that's not a tremendous leap in technology, i don't know what is. In truth I probably used "artilect" to show off that I know what it means. Eh maybe not, that would be pretty lame. it is an interesting concept I learned from hugo de garis in wired magazine mostly. If something was so smart, would it have any motivation to care though? Humans only care about stuff because we have genes replicating at our core, intelligence/liking to learn a trait that they evolved to code for. So maybe the artilects, or probably... would need replicators driving their own artificial evolution (by that point artificial (man made) will become a blurry term indeed... more like man catalyzed) in order for them to evolve a desire to care about knowing things. or something. I'm not a programmer. I've only made one "hello world" program, but it said "qrter is a fag" instead which is true enough. Yes I think an "artilect" (if this doesn't just turn out to be entertaining science fiction) would regard billions of years of earth evolution a scarce valuable tool at it's disposal. It might ned us as slaves to fetch it things, like ... manipulate earth's products of evolution as a handy phenotype for itself. sometimes though, I remember finding it nice to just become completely naive and just accept anything I read as direct fact. Then contradictions and questions naturally arise. |
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Over the next two years I'll be doing some AI work, and I have a number of theories (with unfortunately only weak proofs so far) which imply that a fully general mind (like the human mind) would also, by its structure, have emotion. At least the general structure I outlined which seems like it will work has these qualities. I feel like a cunt talking about it, though; let's just say I'll let xltronic know if my frankenstein successfully shows signs of life.. I hope I get this shit to work. I'm so damned lazy. |
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whoa, .. So ... is this some university work or personal inquiring. I suppose it doesn't matter as long as you enjoy universities. But what are you doing here, programming something? And I don't quite understand what's meant by a general mind. Do you mean any computing device, after reaching a certain complexity must necessarily have emotion? I have a large knowledge gap with math and mathematicians like that link. My guess is that I'll be reading more about it as I get into programming and need more complex math to do interesting things. |
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By general mind I mean a computational process which can be used to solve any problem--similar to humans it has general problem solving faculties, rather than specific devices it can utilitize to solve specific problems. programming is very fun, and very rewarding. It's basically a boundless and cheap (computers are very accessible these days, and the software building materials are free!) creation. It's been personal up until now, but I'm going to probably start working with an advisor at my uni in the spring. Luckily we're ranked fucking high for AI (that's why I'm going there) |
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Ma;ybe you can build a cool artificial hand or something like otto von schirach. You mostly use c++ right? And I have to recheck my c++ topic, but are the "gnu tools" the free software building materials that you'd recommend? Right now i'm planning to buy "visual c++ standard edition" so stop me if you think I shouldn't (it's only 50 bucks). Um, night. I go bye now. |
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I use a couple different languages. For big projects right now I enjoy c++ because while it has many features of modern languages which aid code clarity, modularity, generality, and succinctness, it also retains low level handling from older languages which allows the creation of _extremely_ optimized code. I'm ultra paranoid obsessive about writing efficient code, which is why I don't use any 'academic' (lisp, ml), interpreted (perl, python), or managed (java, c#) lanagues seriously. It's hard for me to say what you should get. The free tools are excellent but have a much steeper learning curve. I don't think that's a problem but if you're doing this for fun and curiousity at first it's better not to make it painful. Also I use linux so those tools are much more closely tied to the system in my case.. if 50 bucks is no problem than use vc++, which has gotten better recently. Later if you care to dick around you can try gcc and all those related tools. if you ever have c++ questions, I'd love to help. nice talkin' to ya |
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vc++ it is then (for now). I'm glad you'd like to help. I'll probably need it... |
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Great. It's most important to experiment a lot, always take your own pace, and handle hurdles constructively. All programmers constantly refer to their manuals (electronic or printed), so definitely don't feel bad about details slipping through the cracks in human memory--especially with a mammoth language like c++. By the way, if whatever you're learning from sucks (were you mentioning the deitel & deitel book? sorry if my memory is shitting), I've heard that the 'accelerated c++' book is excellent. Note I've never used it myself--I knew a couple languages before c++ so I just used bjarne's (creator of c++) book. |
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