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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-05-04 10:42 [#01172750]
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i have been trying to do shit like this for ages, and because i've been using Reason mainly, i can only get as high as 64th of a beat.
once i get my PowerBook (and the capability to rewire) i want to try experimenting with some quicker-cut beats and stuff.
Which application for Mac would be best for me to use?
I have Cubase 1.06, Ableton Live 3.02, Peak 4.11.
I can run floops under Virtual PC, but it seems a little slow. I might only get away with making loops in there, but that's all I'd use floops for anyways.
I'd really appreciate any help from you guys.
My attempts at some serious drill stuff will probably crumble to white shit, but hopefully with your guys help I can at least try
i don't wanna be lollygagging around with the standard stuff i make
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-05-04 10:46 [#01172757]
Points: 8876 Status: Lurker | Followup to oscillik: #01172750
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Cubase Cubase Cubaes!!
but for the moment with reason you can try to experiment with some redicilous bpm numbers like if your gona make a 170 bpm track you set the bpm to 340 (170+170)
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2004-05-04 10:48 [#01172761]
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in reason: do the beats at 2x or 4x the normal speed. if you want higher res on the drills or snarerushes you can go into the change events and multiply the rush...
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-05-04 10:49 [#01172762]
Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to Sido Dyas: #01172757
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yeah that's what I do for Buzz... sometimes. But usually I could do with just using the regular (e.g. 200 BPM) and triggering samples ... eh, like it triggers itself twice, very fast (I set the speed myself). But that's more for drill. But for cutting up, I get more than I need when working with 8 TPB / 400 BPM.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-05-04 10:49 [#01172763]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to Sido Dyas: #01172757
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i thought about trying that, but i haven't really gotten round to it
thing i've noticed when you go at higher bpms (on Reason anyways) is that things clip out a lot easier
is this just me, or does it actually do this?
anyways, thanks for the tip :)
i'll be sure to try it out
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2004-05-04 10:51 [#01172768]
Points: 13915 Status: Regular | Followup to oscillik: #01172763
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haven't got that problem on my old imac, and i rarely make anything with the tempo set under 200 (ie reak bpm 100)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-05-04 10:53 [#01172770]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to vlari: #01172768
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i guess it might have just been me then
lol
i was working at only 170bpm and everything seemed to be clipping out easer....it must have just been me being over zealous and lollygagging
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2004-05-04 11:01 [#01172778]
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hehe, you can be over zealous and lollygagging as much as you want... another tip is to gate drumsounds instead of just triggering them in the redrum. i found the beats to be more "sharp" that way, great for snares and bassdrums.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-05-04 11:03 [#01172786]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to vlari: #01172778
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please explain what you mean by gating the drums instead of just triggering them?
*is stupid*
:)
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2004-05-04 11:11 [#01172792]
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in the redrum, you have a switch which lets you control the way the sample is being played. with the default setting it just to play the sample from beginning to end. if you flick the switch to the gated setting (it's the one with a square type symbol) it plays only as long as the note in the drum-edit window last. so, with a snare drum played normally you get tshhhhhh, with gated and a short note you get tsh.
does this make sense or is it just ramblings from a madman?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-05-04 11:11 [#01172794]
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You tried turning the magnet off and manually doubling (or even quadrupling, but after that it gets tricky) the beats that way, imprecise of course, but it can sound good.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2004-05-04 11:19 [#01172808]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular
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>vlari
oh yeah i get you now!
i always referred to that knob as the "release" of the sample, but now gate seems much more appropriate :)
>Ceri CJ
yeh i've took the quantization off for some things, and yeh it is a pain to draw the events, but it's still not quite sharp enough, know what i mean?
maybe it might sound better if i try using the gate knob as vlari said, along with this non-quantization technique
:)
thanks for everyone's suggestions so far
it's been helpful
i'd appreciate any more help if possible? :)
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2004-05-04 11:19 [#01172809]
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I just made a pretty awsome beat at 800BPM. I varied the res from very low to very high and it came off quite nicely. Although it was bloody fast... Proper drilling I tell yee
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