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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 18:51 [#01165554]
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... if new Aphex Twin album came out and if it contradicted your taste in music?
What if it were something you dislike?
What if it were a complete contradiction of IDM baloon you are worshiping?
would you still babble things that in reality have no meaning, like you are now ?
I am not sure why, but this electronic music hype started to make less importance to me. Maybe it is because I see the music from the same level it was made. I know how easy some things were to make (with proper tools of course) so I just observe and wonder whether some of you are in some kind of a trance.... I do not mean to insult you, but to give you a taste of my perception for a further (and hopefully NORMAL) discussion.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-28 18:52 [#01165555]
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go put on some headphones, turn off the lights, and listen to aphex twin
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-04-28 18:53 [#01165556]
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already happened when drukqs came out
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2004-04-28 18:53 [#01165557]
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AphexwtTwin cant make a bad album his a GINIUS!!!?!!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 18:54 [#01165558]
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HA HA HA!!
:)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-28 18:54 [#01165559]
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i'd change my taste in music.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-28 18:55 [#01165560]
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hahaha.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 18:56 [#01165561]
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what do you mean exactly?
who do you propose are in some kind of "trance"?
it's fine to give us a taste of your perception, but then at least GIVE us a taste of your perception. :)
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 18:56 [#01165562]
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oh man...somebody with a normal sense here. really guyz,no disrespect but this board sterted to take a really weird shape.
i wouldn't say nothing...actually i would be happy to hear james do smtn fresh,cos i got bored of his sound lately.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 18:57 [#01165563]
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I did that many times. I liked it (many times). It is like food that you like and eat every single day until you learn how each bite take tastes like. It is not same food after you eat it over and over again.
(this food thing is just for making an analogy)
In other words, I am becoming sick of RDJ, Squarepusher and others alike.
My taste became obscure.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 18:58 [#01165565]
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(I was talking about "go put on some headphones, turn off the lights, and listen
to aphex twin")
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 18:58 [#01165566]
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you'd be surprised, but quite a lot of people here have gone the same way.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 18:58 [#01165567]
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what did you just wrote qrter?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 19:00 [#01165569]
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I was reacting directly to 3051's initial post.
you will find that both questions do pertain to said post. I hope.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 19:01 [#01165571]
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it's fine to give us a taste of your perception, but then at
least GIVE us a taste of your perception. <--- i meant this man.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-28 19:02 [#01165573]
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this thread turned out shit.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 19:04 [#01165574]
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he doesn't really say how he sees things - just coyly hints at it. he does not really gives a taste of his perception.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 19:06 [#01165577]
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heh...i think he made himself clear enough.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-28 19:09 [#01165582]
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It's an interesting idea..But I don't really think AFX would release anything he wasn't happy with..
And it's kinda important to consider that Aphex reaches in many different genres & sounds, way beyond just IDM; I love the geeky side of him, the experiments and the piss-take tracks...They make him 3D, rather than just a surface only image...
He's an artist..and true art is a journey and an exploration, & not just a "trend"...
(heh...I hope this makes sense in the morning...)...
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 19:09 [#01165584]
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OK I will tell you exactly what I mean.
For example, when I went to see Pusher's gig I started laughing when I heard people cheering some sample that I can make just by slowing it down in cool edit without changing a pitch. I mean, COME ON! crowd seemed like a bunch of morons, and I felt alone in this universe. The whole thing became fake and if there weren't some elements that got my ears interested, I would start hating Ultravisor to its bones.
This is only one of many things I have encountered.
Is that perception enough?
"this thread turned out shit." Not my fault.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 19:12 [#01165586]
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aye...you portrayed james music in the best way.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-28 19:12 [#01165587]
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so you actually go to a gig to hear something complicated? i mean, i don't mind if it's a cheap trick if it sounds good...personally.
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k_maty
on 2004-04-28 19:14 [#01165589]
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I would fly around the world very fast (sending it in reverse) and prevent her car from crashing saving lois.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 19:16 [#01165593]
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you know how that goes with the musicians...we're laways looking for faults and somtn complexed that will amuse us far beyond of the usual.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-28 19:17 [#01165594]
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i see...that takes all the fun away then...
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 19:18 [#01165596]
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no, he means the reverence people have for this.
I think the reverence for Aphex, SP and AE is maybe too much on this board - they're just some guys trying to make music.
but that's just the way I like to listen to music and how I like to see musicians - I don't want to make them more than they are.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-28 19:19 [#01165597]
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me neither actually...but i still prefer afx over autechre :)
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-28 19:20 [#01165602]
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once i started making music, i thought less of the music i was listening to cause i realized how easy some of it is made.
so i only truely respect music i could never make :) my techno sounds allot like AB3 my ambience sounds like whatever
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 19:20 [#01165603]
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I KNOW!!! I KNOW!!! WE ALL KNOW!!
:)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-28 19:22 [#01165604]
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well, you know...i just wanted to make sure it's clear.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 19:23 [#01165605]
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to me it's all this stuff about how some musician is a genius, and how he can manipulate emotions blah blah blah.
it's a kind of deification that I just don't want to participate in, I guess. :)
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 19:23 [#01165606]
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the problem is that most of ppl make them overrated cos the society works like that.
you get one damn good piece of electronic music, and initially ppl start to awe the author,cos they heard from someone that autechre or afx is #1.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 19:23 [#01165607]
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"so you actually go to a gig to hear something complicated?"
No. I like good things. But drawing a line on a paper I cannot call a good drawing either (yeah you could say "what if it were a perfect circle?"... that is not what I mean... what I mean is just a stupid child-like line on a piece of paper).
You don't know how awful it was noticing crowd cheering something that is so... simple, like drawing a simple, childish line on a paper.
But I don't blame the crowd. Most of them don't make music so they just take it the way it sounds or get hyper due to whatever they think it is (like falling into some self-induced trance).
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 19:23 [#01165608]
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you should make an avatar out of it.
just to make sure.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-28 19:25 [#01165610]
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Not shit...some interesting ideas coming up...
"Cheap Tricks" & all that, can, I agree, end up sounding kinda cliched and easy - so many IDM fans create tracks thenselves, it's no surpise we too often hear the process beneath the music & thats leads to a certain jaded "I could do that" air...remember if it's all easy easy easy then wtf aren't you releasing stuff yourself?....
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 19:28 [#01165614]
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some of the best pieces in music were done by the shere minimalism.
like keep it clean and interresting...
dunno
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 19:29 [#01165615]
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aren't you releasing stuff yourself?....
I cannot afford it. ;)
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2004-04-28 19:31 [#01165619]
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3051 sounds like the old "i see the world objectively, but no one else does..."
i say nothing is...everything seems.
don't be surprised if your tastes evolve as you experience more varieties of music, but resist criticizing others because they don't share your views.
your self-satisfied, smug criticism paints everyone with the same broad brush, making all people who like electronic music out to be hero-worshipping fashion-mongers. no offense, but you must be a teenager.
i think you underestimate your peers here.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 19:32 [#01165621]
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why can't you afford to release ur music man? it's not like u gotta pay the label to put ur stuff out.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 19:37 [#01165626]
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"i think you underestimate your peers here." No man, it was a simply slowed-down sample !!
I mean, HELL LOOK AT THIS MASTERPIECE!
"why can't you afford to release ur music man?" I am a cheap ass student taking loans to graduate as fast as possible.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-28 19:37 [#01165627]
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there's certainly a lot of truth there.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 19:38 [#01165628]
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ARRGH! img src didn't work go to http://www.bvsd.k12.co.us/images/kiddraw3_elong.jpg to see TEH MASTERPIECE.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 19:40 [#01165631]
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well isn't this najs...looks psychedelic enuf
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 19:42 [#01165634]
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by the way I am not ignoring all good things I obtained from the music.... Nothing is perfect. I do understand.
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 19:43 [#01165636]
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well isn't this najs...looks psychedelic enuf
Jok more!
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2004-04-28 19:48 [#01165643]
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heh,looks 4 me...don't forget that i'm listenin to ozric tentacles atm and i'm heavy under sleep influence,so if you stuck an burek infront of me it would look aswell.hehe
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 19:52 [#01165649]
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Jaoj gdje me nadje prek' po' sveta o burekima da mi pripovedash... Moze i jugurat.
Ajd pozdrav. Odok knjavati
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-28 19:53 [#01165651]
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you take music very seriously, don't you!!??? i would never ever, fly around the world for that...
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3051
from Vietnam on 2004-04-28 19:53 [#01165652]
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odakleN si by D vej ?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-28 19:53 [#01165653]
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close enough...
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