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offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-26 10:58 [#01160969]
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I'm stuck at a really stupid place... there's just a little
stump thing and a huge gap between where I am and where I'm
supposed to go. What do I do?

Screenshot:


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offline -V- from Ensenada Drive on 2004-04-26 11:00 [#01160973]
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You need to use your whip on the stump on the other side of
the gap. Takes a bit to get lined up properly.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-26 11:00 [#01160976]
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Okay thanks :)


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-04-26 11:58 [#01161075]
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i love this game!!!


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-26 12:07 [#01161097]
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I've become quite addicted... training up for the boss just
after the screenshot :)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-26 12:46 [#01161184]
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I hate that game. It's so frustrating. Nice idea, bad
design.


 

offline nano from Malmö (Sweden) on 2004-04-26 13:49 [#01161297]
Points: 282 Status: Regular



I prefer rpg's wich are turnbased, like chrono trigger and
final fantasy.

I think secret of mana is to.. empty. Played it for a while
but never realy understood what it was all about. Just
hiting monsters..


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-26 13:55 [#01161318]
Points: 22557 Status: Lurker



Secret of mana is great you guys are just bad at life.

I also discovered (on my own) how to fix any saved games you
used a game genie on to get too powerful and accidentally
fucked up (it renders that save file un usable)


 

offline thecurbcreeper from United States on 2004-04-26 13:56 [#01161322]
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that's a sexy screenshot


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-26 13:58 [#01161328]
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"Just hiting monsters.."

Exactly! Altough I think there's nothing wrong with
actionbased-rpg's myself (zelda, illusion of time,
terranigma). I do feel the action should be fun. Which it
(imo I suppose) isn't in Secret of Mana. You just stand next
to the monsters and hit them alot. And as you go on, the
only way the game becomes more difficult is that you have to
hit the monsters even more times.

"Takes a bit to get lined up properly."

Plus the game is full of little flaws like that. Swinging
your whip towards something should not have to be
difficult. Collission detection is pretty poor in this game.
Even after several hours of playing, something about it
still feels awkward to me.

The AI is horrible to. Those other two characters keep
getting stuck behind corners all the time. Altough I suppose
that could be fixed by playing it with more players... which
would probably make the experience better altogether.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-26 14:22 [#01161376]
Points: 22557 Status: Lurker



1) There are lots of different attacks that characters
learn, also using the other characters magic is fun as hell

2) The AI is configurable


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-26 14:33 [#01161412]
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I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!11one

that is all


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2004-04-26 14:36 [#01161424]
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you guys remember fighting that fucking wall? Thats crazy!


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-26 15:11 [#01161475]
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I'm stuck at that :|


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-04-26 15:41 [#01161526]
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My favorite game of all time! :] I love SoM, I've played
through it so many times. Not too mention that SoM has the
best music in a videogame to date, IMO.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-26 15:43 [#01161530]
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So how do you kill this fuckin wall?


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-04-26 15:46 [#01161537]
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Take out the eyes first....I just have my main guy charge up
his sword and get whacking. I set the chick to
runaway.....so while I'm charging I'm having her heal
non-stop. Then I have the short man casting magic non-stop
(he is also set to runaway). I find it much easier to
manually force the characters to do their actions instead of
putting it on auto.

Take out each of the eyes, then go for the middle.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-26 15:48 [#01161541]
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Thanks for the tips.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-26 15:48 [#01161543]
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i agree, its also my all time fav game in the world, and has
an amazing soundtrack.
there are too many squaresoft soundtracks to pick a fav tho.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-04-26 15:51 [#01161549]
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FFVII hands down. I don't even have to hear any others.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-26 16:03 [#01161572]
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yes but thats the thing, you hear others and then you get
confused as to whats better ;P


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-26 16:05 [#01161574]
Points: 9856 Status: Lurker



SQUARESOFT OSTS
-honorable mentions-

Xenogears
FF7
FF6
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore (underrated)
Chrono Trigger



 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-26 16:07 [#01161580]
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the wall is weak against gnome magic so do what gwenly says,
cast earth sword on the boy and use mostly gem missles/earth
slide on the wall


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-26 16:10 [#01161585]
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whats really cool about this game is lvling your magics and
weapons to 8:99 (takes forever) but if you a rpg nerd like
me, its quite rewarding


 

offline D-Steak from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-26 19:09 [#01161887]
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I hear that Gwely, the white magic is so much easier than
the black because you can sit in the inn and keep refreshing
yourself.


 

offline D-Steak from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-04-26 19:10 [#01161888]
Points: 1376 Status: Regular



You know what is funny about this game,,,Santa Claus is in
it!!!!

I think its also funny how everyone in the village is always
dancing around and stuff.



 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-26 19:12 [#01161891]
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yeah, i remember the girls magic was a breeze, just stayed
around the inn


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-26 19:20 [#01161898]
Points: 9601 Status: Lurker



Secret of Mana is good, but have any of you played Seiken
Densetsu 3? (Secret of Mana 2, never released in the
states?)

There are six different characters to pick from - each with
their own story and unique style. Which means LOTS of replay
value - the boss battles are quite excellent too. Also, each
character can change classes twice in the game, which can
completely change the way you play with them. Even better
than that, is that there are two different classes you can
change to for each character. Also, when you level up, you
can choose what gets boosted - this game allows you to fully
customize your characters. Also, there is a calendar system,
and on different days there are different attributes, like
on Luna's Day, Luna magic is stronger (i think) and on the
Mana Holy Day you can stay at inns for free. Also, there are
days and nights, and some enemies only appear at day or vice
versa. My only barbs with it is that the game,
progression-wise, is pretty linear through the first few
hours, and that they lowered the depth of in-game (circle)
menus. Other than that, it is superb.

Case in point - there is a character named Kevin who is a
beastman. At night, he becomes a werewolf and
ultra-powerful! However, at his first class change, you can
have him become a Bashar or a Monk. As a Bashar, his attack
power rises higher and higher. As a Monk, he is still
strong, but he can also learn healing magic.

Damn! Now I want to play this game again.

Oh yeah, and Secret of Mana has some of the best boss music
EVER.



 

offline Drunken Mastah from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-27 01:43 [#01162118]
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LOVE THE GAME! LOVE ALL THE SQUAREGAMES!

some more.


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-04-27 02:06 [#01162128]
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Yeah...Seiken Denetsu 3 is pretty good, but the gameplay is
busted IMO....not too mention that the characters are
unbalanced. Kevin as a Godhand is the best class in the
game and murders everything.

And as for boss music....heck yeah! Thanatos's
Theme....which I think is the Dark Lich Theme is the best
boss music in a game period. This game especially made the
transition into liking electronic music so easy for me.


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-04-27 04:11 [#01162271]
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sd3 played awesomely imo... you to be realquick though..


 

offline Mertens from Motor City (United States) on 2004-04-27 08:53 [#01162465]
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Go here http://www.zophar.net/music.html to get direct music
rips from Mana and a tun of other stuff.


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2004-04-27 11:38 [#01162767]
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"1) There are lots of different attacks that characters
learn, also using the other characters magic is fun as
hell
"

Perhaps I didn't get far enough into the game to really
experiment with this. I found a variety of different weapons
though... but they all worked more or less the same. None of
them brought any sense of strategy into the battles. But
perhaps when and if I give it another try I should focus
more on the magic.

"2) The AI is configurable"

Yeah but that only affects how they behave in battle doesn't
it?


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-27 11:41 [#01162771]
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seriously ppl, try out secret of evermore


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-27 11:49 [#01162786]
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i actually played that for a while - not too shabby at all.

final fantasy vi and chrono trigger will always be my
favorite snes rpg's though. :)


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-27 11:50 [#01162788]
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btw, seiken densetsu (aka final fantasy adventure) was
recently remade for GBA as Sword of Mana - with better
graphics, improved deeper story and more. Worth a look,
definitely.


 

offline Gwely Mernans from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-04-27 11:50 [#01162789]
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yeah ff3 (as it was called here) was godsent lush.


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2004-09-12 03:15 [#01332457]
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I'm listening to "Nuclear Fusion" from Seiken Denetsu 3
right now. Awesome battle music....I think it's my favorite
tune from SD3. Though one thing is sure, SD2 (Secret of
Mana) has better music than SD3.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2004-09-12 05:04 [#01332487]
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I gave up at the wall after one try. I didn't even die I
just thought "I'm sick of this game". I wasn't enjoying it
very much anyway.


 


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