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yes i am making a vocoder out of a pipe, a small speaker off a freebie tetris game and alot of effort. anyone join me? |
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ha ha |
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can anyone do vocoding with normal vocals? |
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thats what im doin man |
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what you mean with your vocal chords?? nope impossible |
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oh.. thought he ment with a normal relatime speaking voice.. |
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lol DoctorMO is a friend of mine he likes to question stuff :) he does sometimes have some really valid questions, that provoke major thought sometimes he has questions that are impossible :) either way, very smart guy, no doubt about it |
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analogue vocoding: sticking a "jagged" tube which is blown air into into your mouth and talking without breathing. (watch the 2pac - California Love video to see a man doing this during the chorus) |
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that's not vocoding |
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sounds the same (unless you want to vocode a piano) |
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yeah vocoding is alot more complicated im doing the pipe thing though. its much esaier |
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ha ha, well it's good to know that it's no a skill but rather a technology. hey I picked up some nice reason sound banks I'm going to use with some midi's I picked up. aren't I the expert ;-) |
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mm not realllyyyyy |
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no duh, I know more about kinetics than sound ;-) |
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what sound banks did you get hold of? any commercially available ones? they're what you really wanna get hold of ;) |
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anyways, i wouldn't be too sure that a vocoder wasn't used in California Love Music Videos always love to embellish things that aren't true like when there's obviously a sampled drum loop or a drum machine backbeat, yet in the video there's a real drummer on a real kit, miming to the backbeat |
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doesn't that mean there is no classic skill in playing the instrument, Oh well so much for musical integrity. they may be ok for what I want to do but I don't think they'er commercial. |
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Martin you need to understand how this stuff works i tried to show you when you was here, but you obviously didn't take notice of course there is skill involved, otherwise any fool could vocode stuff, or make breakbeats, or operate a drum machine |
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by the way, my name is Andrew i wrote someones name by mistake :( i'm a fuck up |
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Ah well, yes I know there's skill just like there's skill in design. but some people still like to buy hand crafted items rather than machine carved even though they may have been both designed really well by musicians. |
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it really pisses me off when people go on about traditional vs modern instruments you know, at some point in history, the piano was "new" and people most probably shunned that too same for violins, etc etc etc |
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vocoders are cool though :) |
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you mean a channel vocoder, phase vocoding is totally different. I can see how you could do channel vocoding with a pipe. Would make a good children's toy, too. |
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yeah i've been using vocoders a lot lately - you can make some rich textures with them. if you want a good vocoder freeware program, try |
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yeah strictly speaking, what you are going to make is a 'talk box', which is different to a vocoder. A real vocoder modulates a carrier. e.g. string sound is carrier, and it is modulated by a voice, i.e. shifted up or down slightly by the contours of the voice. but talk boxes are still cool, and easy to make, just make sure you don't rattle your teeth too much, remember if its too quiet, turn up the mic, not the speaker on the tube! some people have actually damaged their teeth with too high volumes!! |
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try running your guitar and a synth trough a vocoder (youve gotta have 4 arms to get this right tho) sounds great |
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nuh UNH! |
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oscillik: I didn't say the song was necessarily recorded using that method, I just said that you should watch the video to see a man doing what I described. easy to misunderstand, though. |
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that 's not a vocoder but a talkbox. and there are analog vocoders out there. Royksopp uses one for live shows. |
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