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...who circulate messed up copies of their tracks on P2P (where the first 20 seconds/whatever plays and then it goes to static or just loops etc.) are doing themselves no favours. After hearing Kanye West - Family Business on Titsworth's show, I decided to check out some more tracks by him, with the intention of buying a release. I just wanted to see what the other tracks were like. Seeing as I can't hear them in their entirety anywhere (his website only has a small number of his tracks available to listen to.) Perhaps I've been spoiled by things like Soulseek, but as I can't easily hear more of ths artist's work, I probably won't bother buying it. Labels need to grow up and stop fighting P2P... they should embrace it, it's the main way a hell of a lot of people hear new music. |
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that's what i wrote in a school work 2 days ago.. embrace ! embrace ! |
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The other thing is if you have to "work" to get a track illegally (DL several copies before you get a working one) you don't feel obliged to pay for it- you think, "well, screw 'em I'll just keep the MP3s". If it's readily available it encourages you to just treat it as a listening service. |
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p2p will only appeal to big RC when they can make money from it |
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yeah that's true. All in all, downloading mp3s illegally doesn't do anything to record labels - directly. But not supporting them does. It's all about buying / not buying. But I know tons of people who don't buy just because it's available for "free". I buy, I just think spending money on 'good' culture (art) is among the best ways to spend money. |
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They do make money from it... they just need to grasp the concept that money can be made indirectly. Giving promo copies of a release away doesn't, in itself, make money. That's not to say it doesn't help make money overall, in the long run. |
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that what i was tying to get at but im really poor at explaining myself and i could bothered to do it properly :) |
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yeah, only the big record labels loose some money by P2P(and they earn enough! so stop complaining) but the small ones exists do to P2P I think if P2P would not have exist I never heard of great artists like Apparat, Proem, Esem, Adam Johnson, Múm, Claro Intelecto, Akufen, Sigur Ross, Andrea Parker, Amon Tobin etc etc which I have originals from taken from !K7 |
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oops!!, wrong that must have been NO copy protection, respect the music btw: the preview button doesn´t work anymore |
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if P2P would not have exist I never heard of great artists like Apparat, Proem, Esem, Adam Johnson, Múm, Claro Intelecto, Akufen, Sigur Ross, Andrea Parker, Amon Tobin etc etc which I have originals from A lot of people say so... but I'd rather say that's thanks to internet in general than p2p. E.g. this messageboard existed before p2p and people still would go here and get tips of what records are nice and such... |
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you are right if it is about knowing the artist, but to hear the music before buying it you still need P2P or labels like planet-µ where you can hear most of their stuff |
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yeah that's true, if you need samples before you buy (I usually listen to atleast one track before I buy, but not always). Some mailorder recordshops let you listen to records over the phone though ;) that's pretty cool, like you call them up and tell them you want to hear a certain track and they put the vinyl on the deck and play it for you so you can order it :) I know that's what some people used to do before buying. |
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ie: bloodyfist |
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hah yeah! And they also put samples online from cool records, like that Killbot-record... :) |
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so this is why i can never download summer of '69.... ??? |
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:D WOO |
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I had a big record label once. so big, it covered the whole span of the vinyl disc. |
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.......so it was 12 inches yes? |
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I urge you to refrain from referring to my gargantuan member on this messageboard, thanks. |
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your 12" cyst? :s |
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i agree with ceri here. I heard so much. IDM wouldnt even exsist to me if it werent for it. No shops here carry that stuff and no stations really play it. p2p makes a market when there is none |
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i completely agree. i believe i actually said in a post yersterday that record labels, especially lesser known ones, need to realize that mp3s and P2P are the ultimate marketing tools, and they cost far less than most forms of advertisement. |
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..say what!? <------ |
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:D!!! yay!!! |
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one of kanye west's songs sounds JUST LIKE the difference between reality and delusion by stuntrock |
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i think one of the main reasons why majors are losing so much money because of p2p is because so many people are able to hear all the other stuff that's out there (risk free)... people are no longer held hostage by their televisions and radios as to what kind of music they get to hear about... |
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Absolutely - and this terrifies them even more than the prospect of having their own products pirated. |
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I guess one way to make this ok is simply to have COMPLETE album available on the label websites but in low-quality. I see no reason why somebody couldn't make himself an opinion out of this. You know, kinda like the amazon.com samples but the entire album. Now if one stupid fuck rips those kind of albums and doesn't buy it even if he likes it, well FUCK HIM. He obviously doesn't care about music. Music labels should ignore them. |
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Bit of an update on this; I still haven't heard that album in its entirety and hence haven't bought it. Nice lost sale, record label. |
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