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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-19 05:51 [#01149702]
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When you go to a gig, are you impressed only by what you hear or does the visual element play an important role.
Would a Laptop artist playing the best sounds you ever heard but sitting in the corner looking moody and lifeless, impress you as much as someone with great stage presence, but not quite as good a sound?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-19 05:56 [#01149710]
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when you are at a live show, you'd normally expect more show than just when listening to the cd.. Ralph Myerz have quite a good stageshow, but that's not only a guy with a computer, though.
Elektrofant, who are just two guys with lots of hardware created quite a show as well, in a way.. they were dressed up in doctor/operation-gear.
xploding plastix are great live! they make you jump, and they bring along a guitarist and a drummer.
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-19 06:00 [#01149716]
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Yeah, Thats what I like to see. The best shows I have seen are Leftfield And Lemon Jelly. Both acts worked hard, moving around the stage and using multiple instruments.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2004-04-19 06:04 [#01149719]
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when it comes to laptop artists, i only care about sound. imo its virtually impossible to look interesting while using a computer.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-19 06:04 [#01149720]
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It doesn't bother me that much, I usually have an awesome time whether the guy is doing cartwheels on stage or not
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-19 06:05 [#01149723]
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yeah. me and the group i'm in are planning on doing some live shit on a festival here in norway which is called By:Larm. We're planning on being ready for it when it comes back to bergen in two-three years.
We will most likely have me on decks/keys/knobs/didjeridoo, a guy on guitar/bass/mostly anything with strings, a guy on flute/generally instruments you blow into and a chick on cello/vocals plus some rotation on certain other instruments like harmonica, drums, percussion, random noises, vocal.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-19 06:05 [#01149725]
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"imo" means what?
i mean othewise?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-19 06:16 [#01149737]
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Whilst it's nice to see that the artist is actually on stage (not a guarantee that it's not being run off a DAT by any means, but it makes it slightly less likely) it's not that important to me to see them or even see them interacting with the crowd. I suppose it's partly because I don't really idolise any IDM artists as individuals (even if I have a huge respect for their music), whereas say, rock kids seem to genuinely love/worship their musical heroes.
I think well done visuals can also make the world of difference.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-19 06:17 [#01149739]
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In my opinion.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-19 06:28 [#01149745]
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ah. another mystery of the abbreviations of "internet english" is solved!
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-19 06:39 [#01149750]
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"when you are at a live show, you'd normally expect more show than just when listening to the cd.. "
I was slightly dissapointed when I heard squarepushers Ether set, after hearing the breezeblock set. They were note for note identical. I think performance should have an element of interaction and improvisation.
If I went out and performed a set that was 100% prepared I would feel like a cheat.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-19 06:41 [#01149754]
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yeah.. interaction is cool... like at the Ralph Myerz concert.. he'd record the audience going "aaaaAAAAAA!" and use it in the song...
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-19 06:45 [#01149760]
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Thats cool. At the end of my last gig we setup a feedback loop and handed a mic round the crowd, each person made a small noise until we had built up a 4 bar groove. It was pretty mental, but everyone enjoyed it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-19 06:49 [#01149765]
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Yeah, even if you're just extending bits they react well to or whatever... it shouldn't be a case of it sounding like you've just hit play on a pre-recorded set (even if that's not what you're doing)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-19 06:51 [#01149767]
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if you are at an electronic-concert, you're best off up-front no matter what.
it's cool when they use those small "globe" thingies that you can hover your hand over to control certain things.
does anyone know what that thing is called?
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-19 06:59 [#01149774]
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Air FX or D-Beam
I have a d-beam controller on my sp-808 which gets a cool "ooooh" noise out of the crowd when used.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-19 07:00 [#01149777]
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Do you "throw signs" into it? :D
You can get cool effects putting a variable rate fan above those. Sort of a visual LFO.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-04-19 07:02 [#01149782]
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it's the air fx, I think...
I want one, but I don't know what I'd use it for... maybe I'd just stand around hovering my hand over it, looking cool...
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-19 07:08 [#01149791]
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Ceri - Cool, might give that fan thing a go lol, Throwing shapes, using your foot, face.........Depending how much dutch courage you have, you could even wave your balls over it.
The Mastah - You should go old school and buy a theremin or a Rolf harris Stylaphone. Dope if you can get the limited 45 with rolf teaching you how to play.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-04-19 07:21 [#01149819]
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I whole heartedly agree witj you on that point.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-04-19 07:35 [#01149836]
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RDJ did it the best for me: Him on stage and all his mates drunk/off their head and dancing on stage with him. Best craic ever. It was like you were invited to their little private rave..... Cylob dressed up as a banana was sooo off the wall it was sheer madness.
I find any clips i've seen of Squarepusher twiddling knobs/playinng bass absoultely thrilling as he really expresses the songs for me visually even if he'sjust scrunching up his face.
As for visuals.... Plaids last 2 shows here are great examples of getting it right with the graphics....
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2004-04-19 11:20 [#01150306]
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When Is The Plaid DVD Coming out? i want to see bob's work.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-04-19 12:32 [#01150479]
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just what i hear.
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