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         |  Archrival
             on 2004-03-30 10:00 [#01124979] Points: 4265 Status: Lurker
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 | I know I asked this before but I have to ask again... 
 If I:
 
 1. rip a mp3 to wav
 2. then burn the wav to a cd
 3. Then rip the cd file to a wav
 4 . Then convert the wav to a mp3
 
 will the quality be the same?
 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-30 10:06 [#01124986] Points: 40935 Status: Regular
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 | "quality is in the eye of the beholder".....recycle 3/30/04 
 
 
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         |  Jedi Chris
             on 2004-03-30 10:13 [#01124996] Points: 11496 Status: Lurker | Followup to recycle: #01124986
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 | Agreed 
 
 
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         |  princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-03-30 10:14 [#01124997] Points: 13411 Status: Lurker
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 | mp3 compression takes away from the audio a fair bit, so... no.
 
 
 
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         |  Archrival
             on 2004-03-30 10:14 [#01124998] Points: 4265 Status: Lurker
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 | yeah, yeah ;) 
 
 
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         |  Archrival
             on 2004-03-30 10:15 [#01125001] Points: 4265 Status: Lurker
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 | "mp3 compression takes away from the audio a fair bit, so... 
 no."
 
 hmmm confusing, I think u meant "mp3 compression takes away
 from the audio a fair bit, so...
 yes???
 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-30 10:18 [#01125007] Points: 40935 Status: Regular | Followup to Archrival: #01125001
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 | if your correcting him, then why ask the questions :0) 
 sorry dude i honestly dont know/care
 
 
 
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         |  Clic
             on 2004-03-30 10:19 [#01125009] Points: 5232 Status: Regular | Followup to Archrival: #01125001
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 | You said "will the quality be the same?" 
 He said "No."
 
 
 
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         |  princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-03-30 10:20 [#01125014] Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to Clic: #01125009
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 | Thanks! 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-30 10:22 [#01125017] Points: 40935 Status: Regular | Followup to princo: #01125014
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 | maybe your are worthwile around here sometimes.... 
 
 
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         |  Clic
             on 2004-03-30 10:23 [#01125019] Points: 5232 Status: Regular | Followup to recycle: #01125017
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 | UNLIKE THAD SMOYER. 
 
 
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         |  princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-03-30 10:23 [#01125020] Points: 13411 Status: Lurker | Followup to recycle: #01125017
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 | Finally? 
 
 
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             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-03-30 10:25 [#01125024] Points: 40935 Status: Regular | Followup to Clic: #01125019
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 | who's the Cunt......ill fcukin' kick his arseLAZY_TITLE 
 
 
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         |  princo
             from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2004-03-30 10:28 [#01125028] Points: 13411 Status: Lurker
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 | *sets vcr* 
 
 
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         |  Archrival
             on 2004-03-30 10:42 [#01125047] Points: 4265 Status: Lurker
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 | ok, but if I use the same mp3 encoder 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-30 11:08 [#01125103] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Archrival: #01125047 | Show recordbag
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 | Nope, you'll still lose a bit of quality each time... 
 Whereas you can in (theory at least) copy say, a .wav an
 infinite number of times and it'll sound the same, switching
 between formats always loses some quality.
 
 Say you had a wav, mp3d it, turned it back to a wav, re-mp3d
 it etc. for 100 times, it'd sound far worse than the
 original MP3. Almost like tape recordings of other
 recordings...
 
 
 
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         |  nacmat
             on 2004-03-30 11:17 [#01125114] Points: 31275 Status: Lurker
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 | but if I burn a cd 
 the cdr is the same quality?
 
 so could I burn the copy to make a second one, and a third
 out of the 2nd and a 4th out of the third....? and the
 cuality would be the same?
 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-03-30 11:28 [#01125128] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to nacmat: #01125114 | Show recordbag
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 | In reality, when you copy a CD there are always very slight differences. However, these are so minor, they tend not to
 be noticeable, even on a copy of a copy. In my post I was
 refering to copying a .wav to another .wav (on the hard
 disk). As soon as you add CD burning into the equation, the
 loss in quality is more dramatic, but still minor compared
 to say, tape duplication.
 
 
 
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         |  _user
             from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2004-03-30 11:52 [#01125153] Points: 1260 Status: Regular
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 | almost yes. (until step 4) 
 
 
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         |  oscillik
             from the fires of orc on 2004-03-30 12:00 [#01125165] Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to Ceri JC: #01125128
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 | well, copying a raw format to raw format on the hard disk is lossless - it's on the hard drive
 
 copying to other formats will obviously have some data loss,
 but a wav to wav, or aif to aif shouldn't - it should be
 literal duplication
 
 :)
 
 
 
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