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I just "aquired" this program. A few questions. 1) Is it easy to learn? 2) Is it good for live stuff? 3) If I want to play one of my tracks, would I have to cut each track into individual wav files for each instrument/sound? 4) Can you add wav files in realtime without affecting the performance? 5) Does it have MIDI support so I can control my MC303 in a live situation? Thankyou |
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um... ditto....? |
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1) dunno, haven't messed too much with it, but seems easy enough 2) yes! at least it looks like it'd be the bomb 3) yes you have to cut up your tracks into loops 4) yes you can add aif or wav in realtime 5) it has MIDI note trigger - you can trigger your loops from your MIDI keyboard, and your computer's keyboard - you can't use it to trigger your synth though - it handles audio samples only, live cannot act as a MIDI controller (like say, cubase would) |
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1) Yes 2) It's what it's designed for and it is excellent. 3) Only if you wanted to manipulate the individual instruments, otherwise you can just stick the whole track in there to play. 4) Yes, again it's what it is designed for. 5) Basically what oscillik said :D |
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thanks a lot folks :-) |
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"3) Only if you wanted to manipulate the individual instruments, otherwise you can just stick the whole track in there to play." yeh but what would be the point of using Live for that? you could just stick your track in winamp or something and let it run or what would be the point of using Live in the first place?? :) the whole point of Ableton Live is so you can pretty much remix your track in realtime :P i'm not having a go, i just thought that was quite funny :) |
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i "acquired" this too, for my mac it's been sitting on my hard drive for about a month, doing nothing! lol i love the interface and everything, but until i've got some stuff that i wanna put in here, i can't really use it the trouble with this software is that to use it effectively and proficiently you really need loop based stuff. i really wanna start using this as a creative tool, some of the envelope features look fucking amazing! |
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well maybe what he meant was that you can stick some tracks in as they are and others can be cut up so you can pick and choose which ones you want to manipulate. Can you do that? Can you stick in say, a half hour set in Ableton without crashing it, and can you set different tempos? Or do you need to save each tune as an individual file? |
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Of course there would...Gav performs live with a guitar as well...if he was doing a live show and he has produced a backing track for a particular song etc, when he wouldn't want to have to cue everything individually he could just drop the entire track into the mix. |
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I've found it pretty solid, just make sure and VST's etc are tested well in advance because there are a few that cause it to throw a wobbly and crash. You can also use it with Cubase through ReWire. |
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>mc_303_beats when you're in live, you work on a session (your live document, like cubase uses "project files" for your session, you choose your tempo. as far as i know, you can't automate a tempo change, at least i don't think you can. >ecnadniarb yeah but still you could use any bog standard audio player for that you just stick some slience between the waveforms ;) the cheap-ass way of performing live! heh |
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yeh, apparently it'll rewire with reason too i could see that as being VERY useful! ;) oooh thats just triggered an idea you could rewire live into cubase, then you could maybe get your MIDI keyb to trigger any external synths via cubase!!!!!! there you go mc_303_beats ;) that should work |
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You can automate the tempo through ReWire. I mean like Tom Jenkinson performs some track by using samples and fucking about with individual parts and other tracks he plays the bass guitar and just leaves the backing track going...it makes sense to do it all in the one environment as you are performing live. I was just giving a proper answer to the question. |
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The people who I consider legends will know who they are...but I suppose you are all legends in some ways (ie. best consigned to history) |
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What the fuck? haha that post in the wrong FREAKING topic...oh well fuck it I can't be arsed posting it again so if they don't check here they will never know I do consider some people legends. |
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yeh i know what you meant mate :) but if you just import your backing track, the whole thing as a stereo waveform, you can't manipulate it very much........all you can do is add effects to the whole track if you were gonna just play your backing track, without needing to modify individual loops and parts, and realtime arrangment, you could just use winamp or something that's what i meant :) sorry if i'm coming across as an arse, i don't mean to be i'm just trying to help |
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i'm sure that they all know that you consider some people as legends mate :) |
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I Imagine you need super computer to have cubase and live and softsynths all going at the same time. |
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lol, yeh probably mine starts to crawl when rewiring cubase+reason i'd like to see a machine do reason+cubase+live+VSTi's+VST plugins |
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Nah it works OK on my laptop. |
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1) Is it easy to learn? Yes, an absolute doddle if you've used ejay or acid. 2) Is it good for live stuff? Yes, it's fantastic. It also makes a good sampler for when DJing (use a click track which you then mute to get it in time, then fade up the channel live is on when you want to play your samples) 3) If I want to play one of my tracks, would I have to cut each track into individual wav files for each instrument/sound? Not really. You could just use it to DJ whole tracks with. Having it a seperate waves would allow for more flexibility/actually playing, as well as for smoother transitions between tracks. 4) Can you add wav files in realtime without affecting the performance? Yes. Drag and drop wavs from your sample file. Generally, you should make sure they're cut as loops before you import them. Fiddly to do in live whilst playing (although not impossible). 5) Does it have MIDI support so I can control my MC303 in a live situation? Not played with that much (aside from using midi to control live). |
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once again, thanks everyone :-) |
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