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So I've been working at Zildjian cymbals for about a year now. I'm their Graphic Designer. (Check out my new ad on the back of Modern Drummers April 2004 Issue "Get in Your Element") Yes I have the best job ever. What are your all time favorite drummers? Who do you see as the most innovative? I've notived a big trend in drummers using electronics (Roland V-Drums) on their kits. Danny Carey probably made this a new trend, he is a god. So what are your thoughts on real drums VS electronically produced drums? Being a drummer and someone who makes electronic music I'm interested in these issues, and how music will be made in the future. |
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I;ve got some V-drums they're brilliant, totally fun! I like Vinnie Colaiuta and the drummer from 'the Meters' bestest |
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Clinton McKinnon Brant Bjork Puffy Paul Bostaph Chris Pennie |
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Puffy = Mike Bordin? |
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Is there any good drummer albums that have a "IDM" influence, would love to get one. |
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Nice Jivver. Vinnie is amazing. We had the Drummer Achievement awards in September 2003 and I got to watch him do his sound check up close. Simply amazing. Look for a DVD coming out soon. (I'm actually working on the cover as we speak) |
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John McEntire Art Blakey Max Roach Elvin Jones Philly Joe Jones |
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I've found something strange. With all the legends: Max Roach, Elvin, Gadd, Erskine etc.....who are gonna be the next legends? Well Danny Carey for sure, but do you think the likes of Travis Barker, David Silveria, and all these pop/metal drummers will ever show their skills and become legendary drummers? Just a thought. This can be applied to all music. Maybe it;s just my age creeping up on me but there doesn't seem to be any real big contributors to the evolution of music. At least not in the mainstream, popular music business. Unlike the Led Zepplins Beatles etc.. |
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mainstream forms of rock and roll is definitely not the place to look for rhythmic innovators |
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True, but in the past it was. At least in my perseption of it. (My mind is flawed in so many ways.) Ringo, Gadd , Bonham, they were mainstream weren't they? I guess the world changes and the people who make music and those who listen to it change. I feel old just thinking of the girls cheering for the beatles, pretty similar to todays N'syncs. Are they same product? OK I'm drunk, and happy. I'm glad I have my Electronic and don't have to worry about the world's musical troubles. |
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i think Chris Vrenna (NIN, Tweaker) is great |
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Peter Erskine (mostly his Weather Report years. i'd say WR always had the best rhythm-section, and i absolutely love all the drummers who ever played in the band, too many to mention) also: Brian Blade Bob Moses Rick Miah Matt Cameron Ken Owen Lars Ulrich (the man deserves a lot of respect... his drum parts on 'And Justice For All' are AWESOME!) |
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I have some good Lars stories to tell. (Some I can't) Although I haven't delt with him personally yet, coworkers say he's a bitch to deal with(yeah I know it's always been pretty obvious he's a cunt) He likes his control I hear. But he's a great drummer and drummers get the chicks; so don't fuck with us! |
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danny carey (tool) tim alexander (primus, laundry) samir chatterjee (tabla soloist) martin lopez (opeth) |
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i wouldn't dispute that... but that has a lot to do with the fact that the format was much younger, much less corporate then... their innovations only lead to imitations, because it was understood that to follow the formula they created would lead to success... i'd also like to add that most of the jazz drummers i mentioned weren't mainstream... certainly they were mainstream within be-bop and it's various offspring... but all of these genres did not have a fraction of the pop-appeal that swing did before them... most listeners were at least slightly less than casual |
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each time i listen to 'Justice', i feel like forgiving him for not being the nicest person in the world. after all, we are talking about drum skills, aren't we? but anyways, a lot of jazz drummers simply live him in the dust. |
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deffinately gotta say danney carey. the man is a goddamn genious; he uses such complex patterns in the oddest time sigs. imho his best drumming is on third eye and ticks and leeches. |
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george suranovich (love - c. 1970), responsible for the doggone solo on 'out here' |
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and john french (drumbo) - beefheart drummer on trout mask replica |
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Awesome...I'll check out these drummers I haven't heard much about. |
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well I think the drummer from Rush is awesome... the band is cheesy, but the drummer guy is amazing! |
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bill rieflin (ministry), damon che (don caballero), cevin key (pup), martin atkins (pigface, killing joke - extremeties...), todd trainer (shellac), dude from slint, mcentire (tortoise) |
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I hate that when the drummer is amazing but the band sucks.... Dream theater (ok just their singer blows) Rush he just turned Sabian (The Enemyof Zildjian)we're so pissed. He's been with us for 20+ years and they gave him a butt load of cash and he turned to the dark side. We (Zildjian) don't pay our artists because we're not cash loving cunts. Yes I'm bitter. |
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if i were a drummer i'd just steel sheet metal from an industrial arts class, or use a tire rim, or a trash can lid, or somethin... none of this sabian/zildjian nonsense... :P |
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is buddy there? buddy's dead! i know, i just like to hear you say it. |
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Zach Hill - Hella Jack DeJohnette Jon Theodore - The Mars Volta but probably the most well known & most fucking mofo badass... JOHN BONHAM |
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everyone usually says the guy from The Who... I forget his name... but damn, I always hated his drumming... always seemed too much you know, too over the top for my liking! |
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bah!! i totally agree with you, i just think his (Keith Moon) drumming sucks donkey nuts & crap! |
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john molo is probly my favorite drummer right now |
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Danny Carey Josh Freese Vinnie Paul Tim Alexander Chad Smith Danny Carey is definitely the most innovative. |
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doug sharin - june off 44/him (not those finnish dudes)/.... cornbread compton - engine down i like it when drummers can do a lot with little equipment, not the whole 'look at me i've got 15 cymbals and 10 toms' thing |
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and i guess the drummer of jaga jazzist is influenced by some idm as he made a solo album which is full of clicks and bleeps.--->>Kim Hiorthoy |
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the drummer from love but i cant remember his name |
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a lot of death metal drummers would blow away any of the drummers named so far. |
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but one good jazz drummer would easily blow away a lot of death metal drummers! :D |
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John Bonham is where its at. |
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Meg White. This has nothing to do with her drumming. |
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Thank you for stealing my reply. |
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stewart copeland keith moon |
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i would have to say danny carey...his drumming is innovative and organic. there are many drummers that have technique, but not the innovation carey has (example mike portnoy of dream theater). on the jazz front ive been impressed by billy cobham, he is thunderous. but there are tons of great drummers in jazz. most death metal drummers shouldnt even be mentioned in a thread about good drummers. speed doesnt mean you are good, you could train a monkey to do the basic blast beat that is used in death metal so often. also triggers are used by many drummers, which is cheating ;) the drumming on metallica's justice for all album was sped up in postproduction, cuz ulrich couldnt play that fast, and that album is just horrible when it comes to production and mixing. ulrich is a boring and shit drummer. |
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I like monkeydrummer |
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I liked that monkey that played the beats on... Way down deep in the middle of the Congo, a hippo took an apricot, a guava and a mango. He stuck it with the others, and he danced a dainty tango.The rhino said, "I know, we'll call it Um Bongo", Um Bongo, Um Bongo, They drink it in the Congo.The python picked the passion fruit, the marmoset the mandarin. The parrot painted packets, that the whole caboodle landed in. So when it comes to sun and fun and goodness in the jungle, They all prefer the sunny funny one they call Um Bongo! |
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Adam Pierce(Mice Parade) Akkad |
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Tony Williams Jack DeJohnette John McEntire (Tortoise/other projects) Phil Selway (Radiohead - he is underrated just listen to the end of Exit Music or Morning Bell) |
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Budgie from Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Creatures is the best drummer i've heard so far. Both excelent bands too. |
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Tony Williams Elvin Jones Damon Che (Don Caballero) Zach Hill (Hella) Chris Pennie (Dillinger Escape Plan) John Fishman Mats Morgan (Thordendal's Special Defects) Chris Cutler (Henry Cow et al) Terry Bozzio |
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HELL YEAH! damon che is where its AT! too bad most of these guys never even HEARD of caballero before! :\ |
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*nods knowingly |
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*also nods knowingly |
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*cups hands around chest area to signify that Meg White is a female |
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