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well i think it should be "IDM", but then people would think i'm claiming some other music sounds like IDM. stupid terms aside... ...i think Plaid is one of the more hard groups to get into. often they don't sound as mechanical as what i'm normally listening to and it seems they actually prefer composition over sound abuse. i hated Double Figure when i first picked it up, but after having listened to it hours on end, i started to enjoy it. but i'm still afraid to pick up some of their other albums because i think i won't like them. what is/was a hard group for you to get into? |
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autechre...im trying to get into their stuff, but it just isn't working. i really can't tell why are they so hyped... |
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squarepusher now I love it |
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yeah see my plaid=anal rape thread or whatever. Totally bogus IMO |
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I don't get all this "hard to get into" stuff you are gibber gabbering about. If it is hard to get into it is probably because you just don't like it. If you don't like it, don't listen to it...simple init. I just solved your problem. |
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thanks...it makes sense. |
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jibber jabber it was meant to be...I am suffering from sleep deprevation. |
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autechre is a sissy answer. and i'm not forcing myself to like anything. |
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Amazing, so am I. We're cool. |
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We rock harder than crack whores on a fix. |
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just agree 50% its normal that if you have never listened to electronica it will be a little hard at the begining to get into it same can happen with certain artists for us |
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but the way a lot of people type about it, it is like they have to force themselves into a state of liking a release. It doesn't make sense to me. I have never ound any music hard to get into. |
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so you like certain recors instantly? aren't you affraid of what might you be missing if you don't like it on first listen? |
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I agree 23/45. Because plaid is weak and sucky I think a lot of heathens could listen to them without complaining about THE NOISE ITS JUST NOISE |
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i agree there are things that have grown on me most recently (and not necessarily IDM) for me was The Postal Service. initially, i couldn't stand the guy's voice. but after i became accustomed to it, i began to appreciate their music much more. now i actually like the dude's voice. |
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Why be afraid? I just listen and if I like I like. It is very rare that I listen to something that I don't like though. |
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im different...if i see people appreciating certain release it makes me interested in it... |
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well, i'll often listen to things i know i won't like, just to try to figure out why other people like it. it definitely requires some discipline, to try to remain objective, even though i know i probably won't like it. it is rare though when something i absolutely don't like becomes something i can later appreciate. with The Postal Service, i liked the music from the begining. it was just a matter of gaining tolerance for the dude's voice. |
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i don't think people force themselves to like music. they may like parts of the music but dislike others. people tend to focus on the negative side, so the things one dislikes outweighs the things they like. as for how it grows on you overtime it may be because it becomes familiar or because the good parts in the music outweigh the bad or it all gets washed up together and turns out to be alright. nobody is forcing themselves to like something they don't. |
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How do you know you won't like it before you even listen to it. I just lets the sounds go into my brain. I like all different types of music and would hate to have to try to get into other things because other people like them. |
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naw, i think that there are a lot of people who just attach themselves to a band, or style of music purely for the perpetuation of some image they are trying to project of themselves. Like wearing really obscure band t-shirts just so that, maybe just once, one fateful day, somebody will give them that knowing, nod of approval. |
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you're missing a lot then :) |
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autechre + vsnares. I actually did force myself to listen to Confield and Songs about my Cats. Turns out, Vsnares was easier to 'understand' and now I hardly ever listen to Mr Funks stuff. I dont care for it. Its almost torture. As is Autechre too. I can only stand a few of their songs. Too much 'sound abuse'. I like my music lush and chill. Just because its interesting or different doesn't make it good to me. |
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this is true but i think the majority of people aren't guilty of this. at least i hope not. |
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Why am I missing out on a lot? I listen to music pretty much all day every day...all different styles and I have never got bored. there will always be new music to listen to, and I don't have to go on other peoples recommendations to find it, other than when laguage is a barrier. |
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I don't really let anything grow on me for too long. I give everything a fair chance and even try to ''force'' myself into liking what turns out to be true shit, but overall, I know what I like right off the bat. If I was to make a list of my favorite songs ever, the one thing they'd all have in common would be love at first listen. |
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"how do you know you won't like it before you even listen to it?" well hmm.. for example, if Merzbow were to release another record, i would probably download it and listen to it at least once. even though i know that of the hundreds of tracks he has released i have only really liked 3 of them. I suppose i don't know for sure that i won't like it. but it would be a pretty good bet. but that's why i say i try to remain objective when listening to it anyway, so that my prejudice doesn't have too much effect on my opinion of the new release. |
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im sure there are records that would grow on you, and probably some great ones. i just think it's impossible for anyone to like every great record on first listen...im sure there are plenty records that need to grow on people. |
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I'm the same. I have never growth to love a song I initially disliked. I have grown to appreciate a song I initially loved more over time. But I can honestly say I have never forced myself to listen to anything. Probably the closest I have been to what people are describing was the first time I heard Music Is Rotted One Note. I was expecting some drill and instead it was minimalist stuff. But after the first listen I was drawn back to listen to it again. I didn't have to force myself to listen to it. |
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No but it is possible to dislike a track on a first listen. |
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is it a secret which are your top 5 albums? :) |
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hmm... i had some trouble getting into Ovuca - i love him now, though. :D |
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I tried to listen couple songs from draft 7.30, but it sounded too random. But for some reason i listened it in bed yesterday and it's fantastic album. |
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I honestly couldn't give you a top five. |
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ok, could you name 5 albums you like a lot? :) |
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The idm I have the hardest time getting into is the ambient stuff. I usually have to be drunk and getting ready to go to bed, but I usually really enjoy it then. |
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Ambient is the genre I usually ''force'' myself to listen to, and I never learn my lesson. Works best for me when I'm reading or doing something else when I'm listening to it, letting it sink in subconciously, but I always make the mistake of focusing too much on it when I get around to that first listen, and that doesn't work for me... I'll listen to a rock or glitch song and devote 4 minutes of undivided attention to it without a hitch though. |
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Hmm... Music Is Rotted One Note - Squarepusher Bitches Brew - Miles Davis Things Fall Apart - The Roots Radiohead - OK Computer Industry - Dom & Roland I dunno...there are tons more. |
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agreed. i personally think that ANY quality stuff requires some kind of 'forced listening'... if i like something instantly, then chances are that my affection won't last long. there must be something intriguing and challenging about the music, something that makes me solve the puzzle and grows on me. |
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Solve the puzzle? It's like with ae...I really enjoy ae stuff because it is fundamentally very basic. Even the most recent work is incredibly basic, and yet people go on like it is some mad mathmatical problem to solve. Intriguing, yes...music has to have something that interests you. But if you find it intreguing you aren't forcing yourself to listen. |
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well put! the music for me that has the most shelf life is that which i have to get accustomed to. |
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i don't agree that all good music should appeal to you immediately... may of the best works are filled with intricate details that you couldn't possibly assimilate in a single listen... hopefully there is something about it that does grab you immediately, but if this isn't the case, it doesn't necessarily mean that the music doesn't warrant another listen... many of my favourite artists/works didn't appeal to me immediately, and the fact that i like them now has less to do with my wanting to like them for the sake of having something in common with some cool person who already liked it, than it has to do with discovering things about it that i hadn't noticed the first time... is a place beautiful the same way every time you look at it? no... our subjective relations with the world around us, are intertwined with our orientation to those objects... an orientation which is constantly changing |
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Well Autechre is like those magic eye pictures - a lot of it sounds like random nonsense until you unfocus your mind just so. Of course once you learn to hear it it's no longer a challenge, and gets boring quickly. I used to be fanatical about Autechre, now I think I'm done with them. |
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I didnt like vegetables when I was a kid now I love veg food (I also love meat of course) |
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I accept that taste changes over time also. I also wasn't saying that people shouldn't listen to an album more than once. I was saying that the idea of forcing yourself to listen to something was stupid. |
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The only music thats hard for me to get into, is rock music.....I just dont like it no matter what...its hard for me to listen to this stuff, withouth getting bored |
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i see...but i don't see the difference :) |
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Its intresting that hevquip says that he thinks Plaid is hard to get it. Basicly with plaid i got in to IDM, and it was really easy for me to get in to them. But I had quite hard time understanding Autechre, but when i got they album LP5, then i got in to them, and after that i have enjoyed some of theyr other releases. |
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In "IDM" or whatever the fuck you want to call it, it seems that there is no such thing as not liking something, it's just hard to get into. |
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i dont get this 'grow on you debate' if you think something is shit, and afterwards you like it whats so wrong? i listen to music because i like it.. thats it by now i even like the sound of random files loaded up as audio... and thats no fucking music but who cares? |
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