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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-19 22:02 [#01081394]
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There will be NO zombies in RE4. NONE.
The game is in third-person, but without stll-cinematic shots - you can actually adjust the camera, or play it in first person. You can also now see your health and ammo on-screen in the game, and EVERYTHING is in-game - no pre-rendered sequences whatsoever. No door-loading sequences.
Now, the enemies are actual PEOPLE. People that can actually think - if you shoot at them, they will run away, sometimes luring you into a trap. There are some people, with burlap sacks on their head, that will chase you with chainsaws and try to CUT YOU IN HALF. Plus, most of the game is out in the open.
Oh yeah, no Umbrella either. And now there are many ways to interact with the environment - enemies will climb up ladders after you now, and you can kick the ladders down as they climb up - this is just one example.
The controls are still the same, but the gameplay has been drastically altered. Shinji Mikami stepped down from his executive position in Production Studio 4 so he could be more creative with his staff. He said he played Resident Evil Zero, and was completely bored with the old style. Now, he is going for an aura of fear, realistic psychological fear, rather than cheap shock.
And I have to wait until at least FALL to get this. I wants. I wants it NOW.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-19 22:03 [#01081395]
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One of the areas is completely dark, with nothing but the light of enemy torches and occasional lightning to light your way. Now THAT's good horror.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-19 22:10 [#01081399]
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i see zombies in these screenshots
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-19 22:13 [#01081400]
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i can assure you THEY ARE NOT. and they are not stupid either. they are very evil humans.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-19 22:15 [#01081402]
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have you read the GI article? they got their hands on the story before Famitsu...
Game Informer
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-19 22:55 [#01081410]
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those thigns staggering with blood coming from their mouths arent zombies?
i dont see no article, just screenshots.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-19 23:40 [#01081422]
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I thought there were lots of spectors/ghosts/ectoplasms in that game, I saw a screenshot where Leon was being grabbed and bitten by one. Defys the laws of physics.
Either way, that's all news to me up there. Sounds awesome, actually.
I'm also looking forward to Resident Evil Outbreak! A more action packed take on it... sounds spiffy. I love this series, though I think it's always had potential to be better than it is...
One thing I WON'T miss is the prerendered sequences. I hate what they look like, I love using in-game engines for that stuff. Smooth transitions, and if the engine is impressive enough, it's a nice way to show it off and flex some polygonal muscle. And the RE games have too many cheesy Hollywoodesque action sequences.
Silent Hill: The Room is the big prize, though. And I really want to check out The Suffering... looks stupid and fun.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-20 00:24 [#01081441]
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do you mean like CGI cutscenes? preprepaired sequences that arent the actual game engine? because I usually love those... and if you're just talking about the game evirnonment, well, it's ALL (pre)rendered, none of it is actually being generated by a 3d engine in real time.. they are more like paintings than 3d areas.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-20 00:24 [#01081443]
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this refers to previous RE games (RE Zero included), I don't know about the new ones
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-20 00:25 [#01081445]
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pre-prepaired*
environment*
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-20 00:32 [#01081450]
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Yeah, I mean the cinematics, pre rendered. I never liked them, they always seem jarring to me, and cheap looking. Usually, they aren't done particularly well, and it's such a contrast when you get back to the actual game. One recent example that sticks out in my mind is Raindbow Six 3...
gorgeous game engine, horrible and unconvincing CGI.
I actually liked those ''painting'' backgrounds that were in the PS1 Final Fantasys/Resident Evils, etc. They can be
wonderfully artistic. But yeah, 3D backgrounds look basically photo realistic now anyway, that's the way to go. When Code Veronica took RE environments to the third
dimension, I was thrilled.
Then REmake and Zero took it back to 2D! And those are two of the best looking games ever.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-20 00:33 [#01081451]
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Exactly, Zero has THE best rendering I have ever seen... I love the fact that it's 2d and I dont think 3d is necessarily an advantage in that case.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-20 01:36 [#01081471]
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this does not look like a human...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-20 01:38 [#01081474]
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hahahahaha no it doesnt
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-02-20 01:43 [#01081476]
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i confirm, no zombies for R.E.4
it will be good for TV 16:9 widescreen
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-20 01:47 [#01081479]
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no zombies, but plenty of ghosts, then?
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-20 01:50 [#01081480]
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the only zombies will be the people playing the game. AHAHAHAHAHhahahahahahaAHHAHahahhHAHAHahhAHAHhahAHhahshhahAH HAHah
bored
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Xanatos
from New York City (United States) on 2004-02-20 02:07 [#01081482]
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i want it now
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-20 02:10 [#01081484]
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then i dont understand what the people who are staggering with blood pouring from their mouth is supposed to be, if not zombies.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-20 02:16 [#01081487]
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two over and four down
that's not zombies????
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2004-02-20 02:19 [#01081489]
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no, they are plumbers and cable-repair-men.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-20 02:21 [#01081490]
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hahahaha
come on people, give it up... i dont care what yall heard, THOSE are some zombies.
when i see bloody clothes and a stagger-moan, i know i'm dealing with some zombies.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 12:41 [#01082240]
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well, according to the series creator and this game's head, Shinji Mikami, they are humans - perhaps very zombie-like humans. but trust me, they are far more cunning than zombies.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 12:50 [#01082277]
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bah....i'm not trying to start a fight. i'm just telling you what i read. these "people" are ARMED though, with everything from pitchforks (which they may or may not throw at you) to bow-guns. Yes, bow-guns.
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D-Steak
from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2004-02-20 14:10 [#01082433]
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tibbar, thats RE Outbreak, w zombies.
Oddio said RE 4 is w/o zombies.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-20 15:16 [#01082547]
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so outbreak ISNT 4?
whatever, these people need to just start numbering things in order.
1,2,3,0,something else,5,9,4,26,-1
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 17:35 [#01082708]
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oh.....you meant Outbreak - i see.
Yeah, it confuses me too. I guess Outbreak and Code Veronica are considered side-stories.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-20 17:37 [#01082710]
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Yeah, those Zombie pics AREN'T from 4. Outbreak is a totally different beast, and very interesting in its own right. Can't wait to play that one.
I've yet to see a zombie pic from 4, so story checks out so far.
There's another cool survival horror game coming out called ''Siren'', a Japanese themed game with, uh, zombies. Hopefully it's better than the Fatal Frames.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 17:42 [#01082717]
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yes, siren is being headed by one of the original Silent Hill staff. sounds interesting.
but fighting actual THINKING enemies in 4? that already has me excited. one of the things l loved about the original RE remake for GC was how zombies would follow you - these enemies will follow you, and trick you! wee hee hee hee!
btw, ophecks, have you played crystal chronicles yet?
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2004-02-20 17:42 [#01082721]
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looks decent. i need to get my hands on Zero. first.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 17:44 [#01082729]
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also, the article i read about RE4 also said that at the beginning of the game, they saw more enemies onscreen than they ever had in ANY previous resident evil. sounds like there will be an upgrade in action for this one.
but the story so far isn't too great - Leon Kennedy is protecting the President's daughter, then she is kidnapped, and Leon follows the trail to some rural american town..... hmmm...
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 17:47 [#01082732]
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Zero was okay, and the game is gorgeous, but its main problem was it lacked many of the cool additions that the RE remake had - like defense items and regenerating/pursuing zombies.
It's a decent game, but it's nowhere near the higher numbers on my personal RE list. I do, however, at least put it above Survivor and the very first RE (not the reamke.)
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 17:48 [#01082735]
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my RE list, from best to worst (so far):
1. Resident Evil (GC remake) 2. Resident Evil 2 3. Resident Evil: Code Veronica 4. Resident Evil 3 5. Resident Evil 0
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 17:49 [#01082738]
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and that reminds me, i need to get Code Veronica for GC to finish my RE collection! :D
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2004-02-20 17:49 [#01082739]
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Why are they even bothering to call it RE4 if there are no zombies. Stupid and greedy.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 17:51 [#01082741]
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They're trying to take the series in a new direction.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-20 17:53 [#01082747]
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Mine's already finished, boy.
Well, except Resident Evil Survivor and Gun Heroes and whatever blabla. Nobody cares about those offshoot games. Outbreak is going to be the exception, though.
And now I'm starting to worry about RE4. Thinking enemies... that's going to be really scary. I HATE being chased by intelligent, swift enemies in those games. But I...
I... I don't know what to think.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-20 17:56 [#01082754]
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My list-
1- Resident Evil 2 2- Resident Evil REmake 3- Resident Evil- Code Veronica 4- Resident Evil 5- Resident Evil Zero 6- Resident Evil 3
I think they're all 5 star games, though. Every one of them.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-20 18:01 [#01082765]
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the only reason Veronica was not higher on my list was there was not as much replay value as 2. Then again, Veronica was a good, LONG game. I also love EVERY Resident Evil, excluding the offshoots like Dead Aim and Survivor - FUCK those games. I think Outbreak will be, at the very least, highly solid.
I'm glad enemies are intelligent - it means more intelligent fear, something that RE has lacked in comparison to other horror games (i.e. Eternal Darkness, Silent Hill). This could either be RE's next big evolutionary step, or it could be at least a novel experiment for the series.
Either way, I will OWN that game the day it hits the shelves.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-25 14:09 [#01089072]
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bump in response to the Silent Hill 4 thread.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-25 18:13 [#01089364]
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Ectoplasm seems to be all the rage lately... some creepy looking spectres in Silent Hill 4, too.
Leon vs a Ghoul-
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-25 18:15 [#01089367]
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oh snap!
yes this game will be wicked.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-02-25 19:19 [#01089458]
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will i need to play all the older games in order to get the full extent of Resident Evil 4?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-02-25 19:22 [#01089463]
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downloading a demo of "painkiller" which is supposed to be quite a good zombie-destruction-game.
I wonder..
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-26 08:27 [#01090116]
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no you won't. in fact, this storyline is supposedly completely different - no Umbrella, no zombies. Basically, the only link right now it has to previous Resident Evil games is Leon Kennedy, the hero, who was first featured in RE2.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2004-02-26 15:34 [#01090744]
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sounds good. ive kind of given up on video games. ill still play the new metroids, marios, zeldas and what have you but not as into them anymore.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-02-26 17:08 [#01090891]
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I think I'm more into video games now than I've been since the days of Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger. There's an avalanche of awesome games coming out in the next few months, coming in waves.
I so fucking wish I was unemployed now.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-26 20:41 [#01091055]
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I so fucking wish I was employed now so I could afford all this awesome shit!
and i concur - i'm even more into games now than I used to be.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-04 21:32 [#01132449]
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bump in response to the Resident Evil Zero thread. Anyways, Resident Evil 4 will be awesome!!!!!!!
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optimus prime
on 2004-04-04 21:36 [#01132452]
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this is going to be one of the greatest games in many years.
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