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offline Jedi Chris on 2004-02-17 16:59 [#01077726]
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Anyone no what harm is caused by just unplugging USB
devices? I've never really done it properly. I watch someone
use on today the proper way, and right click the icon in the
System Tray, and waiting until it told them to remove it.

I've never done that!


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-17 17:06 [#01077733]
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If you do it 800 times the device melts and the wire turns
into a strange contraption which is programmed to strangle
all humans.

Yes, I invented this contraption.


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-17 17:06 [#01077734]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to Jedi Chris: #01077726



you have to effectivly "eject" the device via the system
tray icon because if you don't data loss can occur

it happens a lot, especially with compact flash devices, and
i'd assume that memory stick is the same


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-17 17:07 [#01077736]
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once a mate of mine did it with his digital camera.....it
basically fucked up the FAT on it (compact flash uses FAT12
file system)


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-02-17 17:08 [#01077737]
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'Anyone no..' ?

tsk tsk


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-17 17:08 [#01077738]
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Haha, it's nothing. I do it with my digicam all the time,
and it is fine. I think it quite likes it actually.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-02-17 17:09 [#01077739]
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Hmmm I had a 64Mb Creative Muvo, and it now doesn't work,
and I'm wondering if this was responsible. I've just got the
256Mb version to replace it, and I don't want the same thing
happening! :(


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-02-17 17:11 [#01077740]
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Houd je rotsmoel!! :P


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-17 17:11 [#01077741]
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yes i'd assume that was the problem

honestly, it totally fucked this card of my mates up...can't
even be re-formatted now

i'd hate to do the same thing to an IBM MicroDrive

eeek


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-02-17 17:12 [#01077742]
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Well I use a USB Card reader for my camera, and I just swap
the cards....but I guess I'm never unplugging the card
reader though, so maybe thats different


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-02-17 17:12 [#01077745]
Points: 11496 Status: Lurker | Followup to oscillik: #01077741



My 64MB memory stick, gets identified in Windows, then
disapears, then reappears....and keeps doing this every 20
seconds or so


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-17 17:13 [#01077747]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to Jedi Chris: #01077739



what i think it is, is that when you insert a flash memory
(compact flash, memory stick, sd card, etc etc etc) the
contents of it are loaded into RAM, then you
move/copy/delete files on there, and when you're finished
the contents of the RAM are then transferred back to the
flash card.

at least that's what i'm guessing

that would explain why you HAVE to eject it in the software
before removing from the drive physically


 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-17 17:15 [#01077749]
Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to Jedi Chris: #01077745



mmm

weird

is it still under warranty?

if so, take it back and complain

usually works :)


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-02-17 17:15 [#01077750]
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But what about memory cards that exceed the size of your
RAM, I don't think that is correct!


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2004-02-17 17:17 [#01077752]
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I logged the problem last week, the warrenty runs out today
as it happens. But they told me they will honor it.



 

offline oscillik from the fires of orc on 2004-02-17 17:28 [#01077769]
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then it'd use the swapfile i assume, just like regular stuff
does

well, if you can get moneyback/exchange then go for it, but
ALWAYS eject via systemtray before actually ejecting!

:)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2004-02-18 01:07 [#01078167]
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Yep you can mess up by just pulling the key out, because
normally it is impossible to see whether it is being written
to at the time.

The same can happen with your card reader, if you remove the
card while it is being read from or written to you can lose
data or even corrupt the card. Normally you can see on card
readers though what is happening, so it is less likely to
happen.

There is no problem removing cards from a card reader while
there is no activity though, you don't have to remove
through the system tray. I would use the system tray for
your Muvo from now on though.


 


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