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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-15 17:29 [#01074759]
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i found an interview with derrick may in which he said:
"The last thing I do is add the drums. Too many people use drums as a piece de resistance to their music. That's dumb. Drums are an accent. That's it. You should be able to make a track and not even use drums. You should be able to have so much power that you don't need drums."
i thought that was interesting. anyone have any thoughts on this? whether or not youre a producer/musician yourself.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2004-02-15 17:47 [#01074775]
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derrick may is B7 from d3troit
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2004-02-15 22:13 [#01074863]
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oh, so it's all about power is it?
Drums are far more than "just an accent" for me. But then again, I'm not making detroit house...
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Clic
on 2004-02-15 22:43 [#01074871]
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Sigh. There can be A LOT of emotion in a beat.
It's an interesting point of view, but yeah... they're definitely more than "just an accent" for me, too.
I suppose I'm a bit biased since I love playing drums -- and as a drummer, hearing that sort of talk is so typical.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-15 23:54 [#01074894]
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Cool interview....
May's a funny old soul sometimes...I recall this interview on KISS from the early 90s where he went on & on about his dislike of where Techno had gone, & how it all seemed to be just drug music...
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2004-02-16 04:47 [#01074984]
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he's absolutely right...
i'm a drummer too, and i can really feel that... drums is just the concept of power in a note maximized to accentuate a note/step in a piece ..., if you can groove the fuck out of everybody on the dancefloor with an utter percussive bassline you don't need drums...
that is, regarding dance music of course...
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-16 06:52 [#01075056]
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i just thought it was interesting coming from a techno producer. a lot of people would think its all about the beats. but like e-man said, it can be all about the bassline. the groove of drum&bass is all in the basslines - not so much the skittering beats.. which i suppose you could see more as punctuation.
plastikman's experiments in minimalism are as much about the spaces between the beats a the beats themselves..
and aphex twin's icct-hedral sounds great with all the crunchy percussion on the icarebeacauseyoudo lp - but philip glass' orchestral reworking is just as rhythmic with no percussion in sight.
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nothinghere
from ZugIsland (United States) on 2004-02-16 07:23 [#01075077]
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funny when was the last time derrick may released a track? did you know he invented DJing also? If you didnt and didnt know what a superatar he is just ask him, he'll be the first to tell you how important he is.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-16 10:58 [#01075247]
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he reiterates that in this interview too. though you can kind of see his viewpoint - it must be frustrating when the only way people attempt to appreciate your work (which you make+appreciate straight) when theyre twisted.
i didnt anticipate the thread being a critique of may himself. i thought the subject matter of the quote was more interesting than the man himself in this instance.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-16 14:03 [#01075505]
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*bump*
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-16 14:08 [#01075510]
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agreed! rhythm, theoretically, is what makes a song move. the melody is what you hum yes, but the beat keeps everything mathematically aligned.
i feel my beats reflect my inner angst and loneliness, personally. beats are just an accent if you don't know how to do them properly. i'm sure breakcore and breakbeat producers would agree with me.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-02-16 14:12 [#01075515]
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i find there are two ways i approach what i make i try to either make everything drone (basic 4/4 beats) or every instument solo
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