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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-14 16:42 [#01073442]
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I just saw Yojimbo for the first time today, and it was so fucking awesome. Well-directed, great acting, well-written - it stands up quite well to this day. Can anyone recommend other films of his?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-02-14 16:43 [#01073445]
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Throne of Blood Shicini no Samurai ( Seven Samurai ) Ume Agaru ( based on his script )
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-14 16:43 [#01073446]
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no, but you've got me interested now, I want to see some of his films.. how old are they?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-02-14 16:43 [#01073447]
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ah, Rashomon ( how could i forget )
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-14 16:44 [#01073448]
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i haven't seen all of it yet, but Throne of Blood looked amazing...
as for some of his other samurai films, Hidden Fortress is decent, Seven Samurai is pretty nice, Rashomon is okay, Kagemusha is a really interesting colour film he did later on...
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-14 16:46 [#01073451]
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Will definitely check out Seven Samurai.
Zephyr Twin - his films are at least 30 years or more old, but they are DAMNED good. :D
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-02-14 16:47 [#01073454]
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basicly from 50's ( seven samurai ) tp 80's after searching info's years ago i came to this : Akira is cool
its probably the best site for his fans. complete.
i watched all of his films - some i have, some no. I recomend Throne of Blood ( based on Makbet ) and Ran and , of course, Seven Samurai- poetry !
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-14 16:49 [#01073455]
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the way he builds up tension before a fight totally pumps you up for it, even though it may last just a few seconds. But it's because of that tension he builds that makes those few seconds all the more worthwhile. Doesn't he have a trilogy of films on a single story as well?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-02-14 16:49 [#01073456]
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Ran is also based on some shaekspire novel ( cant remember which one - the one about brothers fighting for land )
and its better to watch them non-coloured. Black&white gives the films real feeling,
there are coloured versions of the films, also good, but not black&white anymore.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-14 16:51 [#01073459]
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i agree - i was watching Yojimbo in black and white, and it was very good. I don't think i could take it in color.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-02-14 16:53 [#01073462]
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hes was writing scripts coz he was influenced by our "west culture. Funny how one man from such interesting country could be more interested in our lands than in his owns.
To be precise, some of characters are real people from past, and mostly histories are puted in real historical periods - e.g Yojimbo - the time of the action in film is the time of the war between shogun and some land lords, and, whats more funny, the character of Yojimbo is almost the same like real samurai Yojimbo from that time ( a samurai who served to Oda Nobunaga ):)
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-02-14 16:54 [#01073463]
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i took Ran in colour - diferent film i must say...you can stiil feel Kurosawa's spirit, but all these live colours....nah, not for me.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-14 16:55 [#01073467]
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Ran is based on King Lear...
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-14 16:56 [#01073468]
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well, that's not too odd - look at anime like Cowboy Bebop and Trigun, those are obviously influenced by Western culture.
In a way, Samurai films are the Westerns of Japanese society.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-14 16:58 [#01073470]
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really? now i have to see that too, then. the concept alone already makes the movie worthwhile.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-02-14 16:58 [#01073472]
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dead : correct.
and right - westerns for japanese :)))) shame he's dead, but Ume Agaru is nice, its based on his script, he died before he started to make the film. But its good
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-14 17:00 [#01073475]
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Kurosawa is very much a synthesis of western and eastern film concepts... if you're looking for a more "japanese-centric" filmmaker, you might want to check the films of someone like Kenji Mizoguchi... i wouldn't say that there's anything wrong with Kurosawa's approach, it's just different from what a lot of the other classic japanese filmmakers were doing at the time...
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-14 17:01 [#01073479]
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i think that's what set him apart from the pack, though. :D
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2004-02-14 17:04 [#01073484]
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well from the japanese pack yes... from the world pack... not so much... i find myself re-evaluating my position on a lot of Kurosawa films lately... i used to really love him... but upon second viewings, some films i really appreciate, and some films seem to be somewhat overrated, and overshadow a lot of great japanese filmmaking that deserves more attention than it gets... there are a fuckload of fantastic japanese films/filmmakers...
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2004-02-14 17:06 [#01073487]
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i heard something about "the doll" lately, have you watched it ?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-14 17:07 [#01073489]
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not only samurai films, check out Ikiru, one of the most amazing films i've seen and possibly his best film
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-14 17:08 [#01073491]
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of course, of course. :D
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-14 18:32 [#01073559]
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any other Kurasawa fans out there?
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reset
on 2004-02-14 18:59 [#01073584]
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also check out "high and low"
it's a great kidnapping/police investigation movie, i believe he made it in the 70s.
it was lucky enough to see several of his films when the local art theatre played a festival. restored prints of roshamon, high and low, throne of blood and ikiru
intereting fact: 'seven samurai' inspired the american western 'the magnificent seven', which went on to inspire sergio leone to start making his own style of westerns (spaghetti westerns). the first one he did? 'fistful of dollars', the first in the trilogy of 'for a few dollars more' and 'the good, the bad and the ugly', which was based on kurosawa's 'yojimbo'.
so: an asian filmmaker inspires and american filmmaker who in turn inspires a euorpean filmmaker, each film pushing the boundaries of its respected genre
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big
from lsg on 2004-02-15 07:29 [#01074033]
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only film i completely saw was dreams
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-15 10:33 [#01074151]
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very interesting. it's a small world. :D
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Dozier
from United States on 2004-03-02 18:41 [#01096719]
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and a bug's life was also loosely based on the magnificent seven.
i've only seen seven samurai and ran so far. i really want to get rashomon soon, too. toshiro mifune is such a great actor to watch.
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2004-03-02 22:48 [#01096907]
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Kurosawa is the man, if only he was alive to show up these bruckheimer type fags with their lame ass over used explosions and what not
and toshiro mifune is up there with clint eastwood
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-03-02 23:37 [#01096932]
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kurosawa is one of my favorite directors! i have a bunch of his dvds.
if you liked yojimbo, the companion film is Sanjuro, which is more light-hearted than the first. my other favorites - seven samurai, ran, throne of blood, rashomon (i really appreciated it a lot more on the second viewing), high and low...
dreams was interesting, but much different from his other films. i didn't particularly get into that one. hidden fortress is another popular one, but not one of my favorites either.
kurosawa on imdb
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AlfredPMcLovely
from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2004-03-02 23:45 [#01096938]
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rashomon is not 'really' a samurai film so much I think, its more cerebral or something, so don't rent that thinking you're gonna get a fountain of jugular blood
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-03-02 23:47 [#01096941]
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that's certainly true, but as with most of his films, it's a classic.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-03-03 10:35 [#01097368]
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i agree with you on toshiro mifune.
i trust you recognize my avatar. ;)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-03-03 10:36 [#01097371]
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i'd say mifune was a much better actor than clint eastwood.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-03-03 10:39 [#01097376]
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yeah, the funny thing is, though, that mifune was a soldier in WWII Japan, and he was originally given a minor role by Kurasawa in a film, but Kurasawa liked him so much that he started using him as a leading man.
He died on Christmas Day in 1997. :(
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2004-03-03 12:21 [#01097569]
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that's very interesting, i didn't know that!
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-01 14:13 [#01218191]
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The Life Of Oharu just came out on DVD here by Kenji Mizoguchi, from looking at reviews on the net it's extremely highly rated, some even say one of the best films ever made, can't wait to see it. Never even heard of the director before, what other Japanese directors are regarded as being there best? Older directors, i know most of the newer ones.
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polynomial
from glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2004-06-01 16:07 [#01218444]
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u can buy an eleven pack of his dvds from ebay, they always go for a 1 pence! i got one there is a delivery of about 17 pound because its from china but its some bargain! its eight films and three bonus disks
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-06-01 18:24 [#01218600]
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really? i might take a look at that.
good old ebay - saving you money.
*accepts payment for promotion*
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