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nacmat
on 2004-02-08 11:59 [#01064631]
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I need one
I have been on the verge of disaster today
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2004-02-08 12:01 [#01064632]
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Here's a free online scan to get you started.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-02-08 12:05 [#01064639]
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I use AntiVir (which is free and good).. check
http://www.free-av.com
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Jazembo
from The Earth ball on 2004-02-08 12:07 [#01064643]
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AVG is fine for me!
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-02-08 12:08 [#01064646]
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AntiVir Guard... is the full name
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-08 12:11 [#01064650]
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No such thing as a good FREE virus scanner. Norton is the best.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-02-08 12:12 [#01064652]
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Have you tried AntiVir Guard? Anyway, I can't afford Norton at the moment, and I don't want to steal it.
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-08 12:14 [#01064654]
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I work in IT, and its the general opinion.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2004-02-08 12:17 [#01064660]
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yeah I know. But AntiVir Guard is good. Well I haven't had any problems since I installed it.
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-08 12:20 [#01064669]
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You probably don't know about all the viruses it doesn't detect. The fact that it doesnt report a problem doesnt mean anything. The label of the Norton box says "Worlds Most Trusted".....so thats good enough for me ;)
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nacmat
on 2004-02-08 12:21 [#01064671]
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I ll try to install norton again I have the 2004 one but last time I couldnt
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-08 12:22 [#01064674]
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Before doing so, download the removal tool from Symantec, then reinstall :)
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blowfield
on 2004-02-08 12:33 [#01064685]
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i agree, with you, i use this anti-vir already 2 years and it is quite good. free updates, good interface, running on background, i would recommend you this one, too, nacmat
same link as Key_Secret one's
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nacmat
on 2004-02-08 12:33 [#01064686]
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ok
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-08 12:52 [#01064704]
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Norton is not bad at detecting viruses, mediocre at preventing and removing infections, and abysmal for what it does to a computer's performance. I'd almost rather have a virus than have Norton.
Eset Nod32 has the best detection rates in the industry, and I know from experience that it can handle virus removal and doesn't impact computer performance. And it costs much less than Norton.
Honestly, people use Norton for the same reason they eat at McDonalds - everyone else is doing it and they don't know any better.
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blowfield
on 2004-02-08 12:58 [#01064711]
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i thought the topic was best FREE antivirus? sure the free software is not so good than the commercials (okay, sometimes it is better, example linux -> windows :-)) but nacmat asked for free antivirus software and here he has the software. of what you are talking is business solution, i don't know if he has a company, and as a single pc user he doesn't need professional protection i think...
btw: the last time i bought software was 2 years ago. there is high-quaility freeware, too
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-02-08 13:03 [#01064720]
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You probably don't know about all the viruses it doesn't detect. The fact that it doesnt report a problem doesnt mean anything. The label of the Norton box says "Worlds Most Trusted".....so thats good enough for me ;)
How do you know unless you've tried? And the label doesn't mean anything if they can't back it up. :)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-08 13:18 [#01064738]
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OK, fair enough - I was replying to Jedi Chris though. I hate to see anyone being advised to get Norton.
FWIW I agree with you about free software - but if you're gonna run Windows you better have the best virus scanner you can get your hands on, and nothing I know of can touch Nod32, free or not.
Even if you're a home user, it's worth the 40 bucks (30 to renew) to not be reinstalling Windows and worrying about your data all the time.
Linux is great, yeah - the vendors and hardware companies are lining up behind it and I imagine the software companies will follow suit. It'd be great to have some decent multimedia apps running on Linux - surely the core of OSX is sufficiently Unix-ish that porting wouldn't be as much of an issue as porting from Windows.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2004-02-08 13:23 [#01064743]
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norton is crap a good friend was running norton his pc had slowed down like it was a 266processor so i installed and run panda antivirus on it and norton was infected
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blowfield
on 2004-02-08 13:25 [#01064744]
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it just needs some time to get more user to linux. i am also about to switch into a windows/linux pc. it is becoming more and more user friendly and more and more (good) software is available for linux, too. companies are also offering hardware drivers for this os.
for not being off-topic: it depends how... careless you surf through the internet. i think if you have a firewall, a anti-virus software and you check if the websites you are browsing through are trustful, you don't need commercial products. for computer newbies i think a commercial and more user friendly product is best solution
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-08 13:30 [#01064746]
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everything you said about norton is right. you can also add that it uses java for visual traces which in effect will activate what is the easiest place to implant a trojan. the overall performance is poor, the auto-protect doesn't work, the softwre is badly written (on par with IE6, too many small updates), and liveupdate has coaused no end of complaints from users.
i recommend mcafee AV & firewall - smoother, more stable, more reliable and more importantly nothing to do with symantec or norton.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-08 13:30 [#01064747]
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(that was a reply to fleetmouse, sorry i forgot to click)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-08 13:31 [#01064748]
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I've been using Linux on and off since the days of Red Hat 5.1 - I like it a lot but there's no software for it that comes close to FL Studio or Cubase. Brahms? Jazz++? Don't make me laugh. Also, getting a slightly unusual sound card to work is like threading a needle with your testicles.
What I see happening is that something is goign to reach critical mass - probably business users first, 'cause of openoffice and just using web frontends to business databases - and there will be a massive shift. But I no longer feel the need to torture myself for days trying to do something in Linux I can do in minutes in Windows.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-08 13:32 [#01064750]
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Dobbin, it's time to take the next step in your techie education. Blowfield and I are going to walk you through installing Linux.
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blowfield
on 2004-02-08 13:35 [#01064753]
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lol - common earthleakage, no AV software anymore, no bluescreens ;)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-02-08 13:37 [#01064755]
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not if you were the only boy and i was the only girl. ive only just mastered dos 3
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Mr Toady
on 2004-02-08 13:38 [#01064757]
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A weird question... I used to have Suse Linux about a year ago on an old desktop. I liked it... though I couldnt ever firgure out how to get my modem setup, because it was a "WinModem", so it was f'd up with linux... Now I have a laptop, and heres my question: Could I install linux onto a USB harddrive, and have it boot into the computer? It would be like dual boot, except the comp. hardrive wouldnt change - I would just install linux to the usb harddrive. Any thoughts?
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Mr Toady
on 2004-02-08 13:39 [#01064758]
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i guess i shouldve made a linux thread with that post, sorry:\
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blowfield
on 2004-02-08 13:41 [#01064762]
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i don't know of usb harddrives, but the mainboard of the laptop you have, does it support booting through usb? because, my modem is also usb and i recognized it is available when windows is starting
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Mr Toady
on 2004-02-08 13:45 [#01064764]
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hm, thats a good quetion. im not sure how to check if my bios can boot usb or not...
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blowfield
on 2004-02-08 13:52 [#01064768]
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make a windows bootdisk and copy all the files on the usb harddrive. if it is not starting, you should check the preferences on your bios if there is any entry... check the website of the mainboard manufacturer, too, maybe there is more information.
another thing you could do is to google if there is someone who already made that, what you are about to do.
another thing i doubt is if the usb harddrive is a harddisk you can change from NTFS to other format which is linux using or not...
if it boots, i think the rest must be possible.. installation, running... etc :)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-02-08 13:54 [#01064770]
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I'm willing to try out this Nod32 thing. How good is its AutoUpdate feature?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-08 14:19 [#01064782]
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Flawless. If you're online, it pings the server once an hour and downloads any updates it finds. Or you can just do manual updates if you're on dialup.
Basically the new version's installer is idiot proof. Just install and click yes, yes, yes and you're done. Then if you go in and look at what it did, it used the options I would have used... no nonsense, but all the control is there if you want it.
It also has a corporate frontend to roll out the installations onto multiple desktops and keep them updated. Haven't had to look into that yet as most of our clients don't have that many systems...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-08 14:20 [#01064783]
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At least you've got it right that I'm the boy in that situation.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-08 14:30 [#01064788]
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AVG
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-02-08 15:07 [#01064802]
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Alright, sounds good enough. I'll check it out one of these days :), thanks.
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nacmat
on 2004-02-08 15:58 [#01064833]
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what do you guys thing of:
eTrust EZ Antivirus
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big
from lsg on 2004-02-08 15:59 [#01064834]
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how often you'd have to renew: their at the fourth version since '98 i read, so that's reasonable?, does that even matter for staying updated considering protection..
what does the AVG deal mean concerning that you cant install on computers in a network: not even if i have a network at home with my roommate?
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-02-08 16:18 [#01064853]
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i think it's free as long as you don't use it in PUBLIC - meaning like in a business or something. i think if you just use it at home, for home purposes, you'll be fine.
anyways, nacmat, i recommend AVG as well. good stuff.
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big
from lsg on 2004-02-08 16:30 [#01064869]
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yes, that's prolly it. just wanted to make sure so i wouldnt go feeling all guilty..
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-08 17:06 [#01064902]
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It's a yearly subscription deal.
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big
from lsg on 2004-02-09 06:05 [#01065308]
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ok, ill think about it
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-09 06:24 [#01065333]
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Well jeez, try the one month demo first. It won't fuck anything up as long as you uninstall any other antivirus products first. It uninstalls cleanly.
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big
from lsg on 2004-02-09 06:29 [#01065337]
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i just dont wanna think about virusses, i wouldnt know wether it'd be good anyway, because i just wouldnt get infected.
i've macced for years without wanting to think about that kinda stuff, now my imac doesnt work anymore
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-09 06:35 [#01065344]
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Heh, I hear ya - I used Linux for a few years before I got into music making and had to switch to Windows... when I went back to Windows the virus and popup and spyware situation had gotten a LOT worse...
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big
from lsg on 2004-02-09 06:41 [#01065348]
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im wondering wether my mac caught something
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-09 06:43 [#01065349]
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Why, did it start sneezing? :^)
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-02-09 07:33 [#01065373]
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AVG & sygate personal firewall for me.
seems to be pretty good so far.
i think suse 9.0 has gotten better about working with winmodems mr toady.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2004-02-09 19:05 [#01066223]
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Yeah I like Sygate. I run it every once in a while to see if my software is spying on me - most of the time I don't bother because I'm behind a NAT router.
(I can hear elusive chortling to himself as I type that last bit)
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-02-09 19:40 [#01066266]
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yep, sygate seems like a really good firewall. can't beat the price, and it gives me more info on individual programs & plays nicer with my machine than ZoneAlarm did.
you know anything about the grisoft AVG anti-virus software?
i'm not very prone to viruses cause i don't download a whole lot of software, and they seem to update their definitions pretty quickly. so, i figure they're good enough for my needs.
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