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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-01-26 14:46 [#01049700]
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He beat out favourites Jack Nicholson and Johnny Depp for the honors - I think he deserves it. Your thoughts?
Oh and Lost in Translation won Comedy of the Year btw.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-26 14:47 [#01049703]
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nice one, Lost In Translation is an awesome film! Best i've seen this year, though that may change when I see Big Fush Friday :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 14:49 [#01049707]
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best comedy??? i must have seen the wrong film... great for murray!!!
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-01-26 14:51 [#01049708]
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Murray won Best Actor, and director/writer Sophia Coppola took home a couple of awards herself. It was funny, because she seemed so cutely shy when accepting her award.
What REALLY surprised me though was Lord of the Rings: RTOTK taking home Best Drama. I mean i love LOTR but usually most award shows don't credit such fantasy material.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 14:53 [#01049713]
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hahaha, what a shitty award competition.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-01-26 14:56 [#01049717]
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yeah i know but i was bored last night - so sue me. :D
but murray definitely deserves recognition....
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 14:58 [#01049723]
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surprising that 'the office' picked up 2 golden globes in an american awards ceremony, considering its only broadcast on a relatively small cable channel.
lost in translation is very funny - but like most things in that film, its all about subtlety.
some people actually walked out of the cinema i saw it in.. not sure what they were expecting really - but they obviously didnt get it.
i loved the film though. bill murray was excellent in it. sophia coppola seems to be a very talented woman. two highly acclaimed films already.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 15:02 [#01049729]
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that's what i mean. how is it possible to pick two such different film like lost in translation and lotr on the other hand?
lost in translation is here considered a non mainstream film and it has a totally different audience that lets say lotr.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 15:09 [#01049735]
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thing is, you can use that line of arguement against virtually all film/music awards ceremonies.
it does stand to reason that, if two films or two albums are stylistically different, they are beyond comparison.
but you cant really have an award/awards ceremony for every different genre of film.. it sort of defeats the object. and besides, there arent enough films released in each particular genre to qualify this kind of generic segregation.
i know thats a really obvious/anal arguement. and i do agree with you that both those films are so far apart they have nothing in common other than theyre both films.. but my opinion is that all awards ceremonies (whatever theyre for) are more about the industry/business/publicity/recognition than they are about art/artistic integrity.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-01-26 15:11 [#01049738]
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i agree with you there.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2004-01-26 15:15 [#01049746]
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Go Murray!
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 15:18 [#01049752]
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thanks. glad im not standing alone on that front.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-26 15:20 [#01049755]
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Was he there?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 15:22 [#01049758]
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hmm, if you check what kind of films get in competition on european festivals, like cannes, venice, berlin, roterdam, karlovy vary,...you can see that they don't ever pick commercial films, not because they weren't good, but because they were filmed for totally different audience. i think they only pick independant films for this festivals.
"there arent enough films released in each particular genre to qualify this kind of generic segregation"
you'd be surprised how many independeant films are filmed every year.
my guess why they pick such "artsy"(not too fond of this term, im just using it so we know what im talking about hehe) films for this kind of competitions is to give the awards a more serious appearence. it's only my opinion ofcourse.
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 15:28 [#01049772]
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thing is, with lord of the rings.. its a tough one. yes it s a massive special fx film - but thats not the sole selling point of the film. its based on a highly celebrated english literary work. made by a new zealand-based crew.. and though they couldnt have done it without new-line's money : their approach to the film making process appears to have been.. pretty.. amateur is the wrong word.. but it wasnt the typical hollywood production-line big budget film project.
if you see what i mean..
(im not sure i do any more)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-26 15:34 [#01049779]
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i shouldn't be really debating this as i haven't seen any of lotr films. i know for sure tho that it has never been picked for competition in european festivals, which is kind of weird actually cuz they have no problems with selecting asian fantasy martial arts films...judging on this i'd say that the only criteria is apperantly the money behind the film...
im not sure either :)
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 15:49 [#01049789]
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cheeky bugger :)
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2004-01-26 16:00 [#01049802]
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There was a show on IFC about the filming of 'who killed Don Quixote" by Terry Gilliam..
Looked like it was going to be really good. Shame it didn't work out
http://www.lostinlamancha.com/
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-26 16:03 [#01049804]
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Bill Murray deserved it, i love him to bits
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 16:09 [#01049806]
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is that why youre called murray
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2004-01-26 16:11 [#01049808]
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yay
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acrid milk hall
from United Kingdom on 2004-01-26 16:30 [#01049845]
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how was the gig last week?
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