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Do you think there will be a time when nothing is really inspiring? When releases become redundant, non innovative clones? perhaps this will occur when it reaches maintream radio? or are we there already? thoughts to ponder! |
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IDM doesn't exist. Don't ever speak of it again. |
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IDM is getting gay. i've been meaning to post a topic going into more detail about this, but i am lazy. |
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I think IDM is going to merge with pop music and eventually they will cancel themselves out. Then we will all be stuck listening to an odd mixture of Neo-Country-Folk-Rap |
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i hate to repeat myself... but idm, or experimental electronic music, or whatever the hell you want to call that which we listen to... it's a RELATIVE term... that means that so long as there is a fringe, i will be there enjoying all the interesting art that emanates from it, and a lot of other "idm" fans will be too |
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oh touch me touch me now |
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*touches nigel on the bellybutton* |
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I'm disappointed that there's such a recognisable "IDM" sound these days... Almost becoming as formulaic as UK Garage, Trance or Tech-Step D&B. It often puts me off a lot of new artists because it's so obvious who they've been influenced by and it's starting to sound really cliqued. So I couldn't care less if "IDM" died - But as long as there's original electronic musicians out there, and labels to put their stuff out, everything'll be cool. Does make you wonder if the extremes people have to push the music to, to stay original, will get so ridiculous that it'll be completely unapproachable to anyone who doesn't have a computer interface built into their brain. |
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i think that in certain areas, yes it is in a sort of rut. people are trying to advance the music to far into the future with what they THINK it will or should sound like and all we end up with is glitch. lots of it. i'm ready to hand my mom my laptop and see what she comes up with. i bet i can get her signed to hefty or merck. All jokes aside, i think that to be new and exciting, sometimes with any form of art, so it does lose its soul needs to look into its past rather than too far into the future. i think Toytronic has the right idea. the best of both worlds. Spezial Material as well. although all their shit is TOO fucking limited. annoyingly so. i had to jump through a hoop, and lick a sack or two just for a damn Intricate album. |
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> Do you think there will be a time when > nothing is really inspiring? When releases > become redundant, non innovative clones? will be a time??? where have you been, man??? |
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Nah. i dont think its like that yet. check out anything on the two labels i just mentioned and you will be pleasantly surprised. People need to get out of the AFX BOC AE BOC AFX AE fucking cycle, and broaden theyre horizons. maybe dip into the old school section the record bin. pre laptopism. take a vaction from the 21st century. try new shit. and when i say new, i mean new to YOU. |
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You could say IDM died as soon as it became known as IDM. All these things have a habit of going in cycles though - I'm kind of just waiting for RJ's next move to dictate what direction the electronic scene goes in to be honest! Every other IDM tune I hear these days is just Drukqs reinvented. |
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oi, vaction = vacation. i need to go to bed. *snore*......mmmmm new cLOUDDEAD album tomorrow......mmmmmm |
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Yeah fully - There's still a whole tonne of records, especially the pre-warp ambient techno/trance stuff, that blows my mind when I hear it these days! Unfortunately it's a very hard era of music to get into as most of the producers got little/no recognition before labels like Warp were there to back them. |
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honestly though... people who think that electronic music is stagnating just aren't trying hard enough to find the good shit... last year, there was at least 50 really worthy electronic releases if not more... there will always be good music to be heard because the world is constantly inspiring talented individuals in all kinds of different ways... now is no different from 10 years ago or 100 years ago, or 1000 years ago... |
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I think its funny though that what was a pretty UK dominated genre (artist wise), and i dont mean where it was birthed-thats a whole other thread, now when i go into the record store, all anyone is talking about is whats on wobblyhead or whats freescha's latest alias...blah blah... i dont really think anyone is really for rdj to lead the way anymore. theyve all got laptops now and could very well invent a whole new genre by hitting a wrong keystroke! |
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I kind of think RJ kickstarted the whole laptop scene - And defined the template for the 21st century IDM sound... Completely unintentionally - And indirectly.. |
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personally i don't give a shit about freescha, if i want to hear derivative BoC material, i can always listen to Casino vs. Japan, or something... (which is incidentally on wobblyhead... but i digress)... perhaps your experience is influenced by how close you are to the homebase of many of these artists... (i could be wrong...) if centred anywhere, geographically... i'd say i've found a lot of cool shit coming out of germany... but truly the best of the best are scattered across the globe... there's plenty of inspired canadians, americans, europeans, brits, japanese... i only look forward to what this stuff will sound like when more people pursue it in more underdeveloped countries... it will be interesting to see how the electronic age will interact with, say for instance, the folk music of indonesia... |
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most of the time it is like that. a few years ago, if you wanted the shit house around chitown, it was the newest felix da housecat white label, and such. but lately the twirps conversations around the record stores went from AE this, rephlex that, warp warp WARP, to fucking Hefty or some shit. personally i couldnt give two shits, but it always makes you feel a bit more patriotic when you get someone like signaldrift make it big. puts a tear in my eye. but then there is the dark side.....Cex......*shudder*... |
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yeah, i know what you mean... i'm totally fuckin' proud of the canadian artists who are awesome... i think some of the best in the biz are from my frozen homeland... but there's also a lot of derivative stuff from here too... so... well i don't really know what i'm trying to say... |
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sorry. barring role model of course. |
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for sure, derivative, its like that everywhere. man, pull out anything by hefty and youll see derivative. i feel like torching their office right now in fact... |
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i like the flash-intro they have to their sight right now: with the critical one-liners in fancy fonts, telling us how great the new telefon tel aviv will be... very funny... i hope the album is as good as they say... but i can't help but feel embarrassed by the way they are plugging it... |
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i think the next step for music isn't going to be a new style, it'll be a new way of listening, which will in turn, inspire new styles. If you think about it, the way we listen to music now is pretty shitty, it comes from one direction, through speakers. I think soon it'll be surround sound, this 5:1 thing is taking over, 5:1 headphones are already on the market, etc |
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that's what so cool about sound installations... some of my favourite artists have done shit like that... i'd totally like to do something along those lines one day... |
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What are you kidding? i'm WAY wired for all that shit already. you NEED to hear the MEAM album in 5.1! its wicked awesome. tell me where i can find any electronic DVD or SACD discs, and i'm there. cause believe me ive looked. unless of course your in the market for moby's 16 or ministry. |
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yeah... i really wish i could actually get a hold of that album in legit form... but it seems like it didn't make it to canada at all... it's real nice though, real nice... frankly i think last year was a great year for skam in general |
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Neo-Country-Folk-Rap.. like Shania Twain? |
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I reckon people will strive so hard to make music "original" the quality of it won't be relevant to them. Probably why so much avant garde music is actually not much fun to listen to :) I think it's boring to rip off other people, but if you're doing a great track and think, "oh wait, this sounds like ae" it'd be silly to change it (into something worse) just so people won't accuse you of copying autechre. |
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as long as jenkinson and james continue to do electronic music im in no fear for it's future. i thought 2003 was pretty great music wise - there were at least very good releases. i try and check out as much music as possible, but frankly, stuff by pusher and afx is still way ahead of anyone else. perhaps im under great influence of ultravisitor at the moment, so that my effect me saying this, but really, now that i heard ultravisitor next thing im expecting is new afx, can't wait for that. the only thing that would scare me would be a shitty new afx album, but i kind of doubt that could happen. :) |
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