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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-08 19:51 [#00982579]
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yo yo yo
Just about every album on that list sounds entrancing from the way they describe it - the only one I've heard on there is The Books and it's great... anyone heard any of the others?
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2003-12-08 19:56 [#00982584]
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FUCK PITCHFORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-12-08 19:57 [#00982585]
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yes, that is correct... despite the fact that pitchfork is, in the opinion of a lot of people on this board, clearly run by retards who don't know what the fuck they are talking about... the majority of the recommendations on that list are quite good... and come year-end when they release that list... there will be lots of great stuff there as well...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-12-08 20:16 [#00982612]
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Pitchfork has an indie bias. They will recognize fine distinctions in flavors of indie that we might see as generic manic-depressive midwestern anti musician caterwauling.
And conversely since they are not as electronically perspicacious they sometimes miss the merits of an electronic release, leaving the true believers miffed.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-12-08 20:30 [#00982631]
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i won't argue any of that (my relationshop with the site is definitely love-hate... more hate lately)... but they are getting better about their biases... just compare the new version of their top 100 of 1990's with their old version.... a world of difference... but when it comes to picking out some of the finest releases in rock and hip-hop... pitchfork is on the mark as often as any of the other decent publications i can think of... sometimes better... as for the electronic end of things: Mark Richardson is still one of the best electronic critics in the business...
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-12-08 20:32 [#00982632]
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what happy cycling said
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-12-08 20:44 [#00982643]
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despite my overall hate of the trend following idiots who write for pitchfork, i actually like this list.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-12-08 20:45 [#00982645]
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and i've heard the basement jaxx and mu albums, neither of which was bad. in fact, they were both pretty good.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-12-08 20:46 [#00982646]
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there are idiots in every publication. pitchfork is no worse than any others ive read. all this pitchfork bashing is silly to me. might as well bash every site that reviews albums.
granted, some things pitchfork have done i dont like, but some things other reviewers have done i dont like either. i agree with pitchfork on some ocasions, and sometimes i dont. LIKE ANY OTHER.
yeah a number of those recommendations are cool. why?'s album i like especially.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-12-08 20:51 [#00982652]
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pitchfork is pretty on point for a lot of things.. I know that their forced 'one-step-ahead' attitude towards all artists and movements is a bit annoying, and causes good albums to get bad reviews and average albums to get sky-written praises.. it all depends on how many people are listening at the time the review was written.. this is pretty evident in a lot of their year-end wrapup things when they say things like "maybe giving this album a 10.0 was a bit much, but...".. and with hiphop they're usually just a tiny bit off .. not completely .. but they're just not the best frame of reference for anything that isn't def jux or relatively mainstream (they have an inexplicable missy elliot affinity) .. but a lot of their reviews are witty and pretty well written .. ...and, of course, incredibly pretentious
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-12-08 21:17 [#00982681]
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they're kid a review was ridiculous. i do agree though, they get alot of shit and aren't that much worse than other magazines, plus, atleast they bother to review "underground" music.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-12-08 21:17 [#00982682]
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"they're" = their
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