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offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-02 17:09 [#00974701]
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when i played afx's "mont st michel & st michaels mount",
he said that if he closed his eyes during the tail end of
the track, he could almost see an enormous insect beating
its wings..

what do you "see" when listening to afx (or anyone else)?


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-02 17:11 [#00974703]
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i meant "when i played afx's msmasmm to a friend he said.."


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-12-02 17:11 [#00974704]
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stuff
or black


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-02 17:17 [#00974712]
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very articulate..


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-12-02 17:20 [#00974713]
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haha kidding
the coolest was one time i fell asleep to tool's lateralis,
i believe, i saw, on the cool part of that song, sort of
like fireworks but then as computer animated stuff, like the
form of the 'tree' of that black stuff in that glass in
matriculated in the animatrix (i must have seen more of
those images) in black and white, that last thing was most
striking actually. when i tolled a friend about it he said
something like boys dream more of that sort of mathlike
stuff in black and white and girls in colors, that was an
interesting thesis


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-12-02 17:21 [#00974715]
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yeah: that aparantly took me 9 minutes to write :/


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-02 17:24 [#00974721]
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i was half asleep once with icct hedral by afx on really
loud & i could see some kind of creature crawling along the
ground.. dark shapeless forms moving toward me. hard to
describe really.

if im dozing with boards of canada on i feel almost as
though im floating a few inches between the soft grass & a
blue sky.. with mountains in the distance.

numbers and colours crop up a lot.
shapes writhing around to rhythms..

i'll think of other examples eventually.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-12-02 17:27 [#00974727]
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Are you 'on drugs'?


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-12-02 17:28 [#00974729]
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i remember one time falling asleep to saw2 and having one of
those crazy "false awakening" dreams, and in my false
awakening i was in my room watching a part of star wars (the
original) id never seen before and i had two dicks. that
was, the least to say, pretty fucked up. o yeah and in the
initial dream, tragedy took acid. hahahahah!


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 17:33 [#00974731]
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its called synaesthesia


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-12-02 17:38 [#00974740]
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do you know that video 'when the sun goes down' by cassius,
i believe that's great
all my incredible dreams can be derived to more earthly
stuff, like stuff i saw on tv or the theatre
so seeing that on boc, fits pretty well what they think of
their music with titles as in a beautiful place out in the
country
i like the math stuff, numbers ive never seen
my most spiritual dream was when my gardian angel manifested
itself to me: i was swimming deeper and deeper into the
ocean, though it wasnt really getting colder, just the ocean
getting more beautiful deeper blue. i was swimming from
dangerous stuff like fire and explosion above the surface. i
wasnt afraid of drowning. then i felt a hand, the precense
of it, about to be put on my shoulder, i felt the love
coming from that. then i woke up feeling happy and warm

the deep blue is from the movie the deep blue, by luc
besson
the fire is from true lies
the love is more interesting: when i was little and lying in
bed, i snuggled up, feeling safe underneath the blankets,
but still feeling i could be stabbed in the back (but
wouldnt because i was at home and because of the blanket..)
i pulled away then, shivering, from the blade. that love
thing was kinda like the oppesite of that pulling away
:)


 

offline acrid milk hall from United Kingdom on 2003-12-02 17:51 [#00974757]
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jivverdicker - im not on 'drugs'

horsefactory - thanks for reminding me of that word, id
forgotten it..

big - i guess the boc thing makes sense, though it predates
the release of abpoitc.
the math stuff is good - ive never been comfortable with
math, but somewhere in that interim between being awake &
asleep, with the right music on - it makes sense.
i guess thats the good thing about dreams though.

know what you mean about seeing your cultural repetoire of
films, books, tv etc reflected in your dreams.
odd feeling.


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2003-12-02 18:27 [#00974786]
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I swear that I get this really weird "de ja vu" feeling when
I hear some IDM stuff...

I know I've heard it before somewhere...

One time when I was listening to Grass (Dsk 1 Trk 4) from
SAWII, I saw this really dreaky mental picture of like a
cloudy day, and a strong wind whipping through a field of
that really tall, wispy brown grass. There was forest
surrounding the plain of grass, and in the distance, there
was this really freaky creature coming towards me.

Half of its head was missing, and it had like long black
hair and sort of a metallic face. Its arms swung back and
forth and every step it took showed its menacing authority.
The plain was sort of claustrophobic and there was no way
out, meanwhile this thing was getting closer and closer...

....freaky.


 

offline Toejam from Perth (Australia) on 2003-12-02 18:27 [#00974787]
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dreaky??

*freaky*


 

offline xf from Australia on 2003-12-02 18:30 [#00974789]
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one of the first times i heard draft, i fell asleep (don't
know why); had these really fucked up random visualisations
then woke up with my entire body convulsing

never experienced that before (or since).

ae rule.


 

offline happy cycling from berlin on 2003-12-02 19:04 [#00974810]
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ae + drugs = interesting visuals

things turning inside out

rise & fall of organic ecosystems on a distant stars


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-12-02 19:43 [#00974835]
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i halucinate when i listen to music in bed, nothing
incredibly interesting. mostly shapes and patterns and
stuff. however when i fall asleep i have music video
dreams, its really neeto.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 19:49 [#00974837]
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when i play polynomial-c, i visualize two gods fighting each
other in the sky and then descending into a freefall.


 

offline AlfredPMcLovely from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2003-12-02 19:51 [#00974839]
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when I listen to æ I picture Gantz Graf like stuff


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-12-02 19:54 [#00974840]
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when i listen to abb 4 - elephant song i see a fucking crazy
elephant stomping around


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-12-02 20:18 [#00974857]
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Chiastic Slide puts me in an abandoned old machina city. I
can feel the rust scraping between my teeth. Love love love
that album and all that crunch.

BOC puts me in the country or a wasteland. AE and BOC are
the most visual artists for me, but everything makes me
imagine something. And every song and album I've ever heard
have a ''color'' assigned to them. And I always get vivid
mental images from the lyrics, they always paint a picture
in my head... 'natch.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 20:19 [#00974858]
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vespertine gives me images of frozen forests and ice and
goddesses and shit. good stuff.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-12-02 20:48 [#00974870]
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Vespertine was recorded mainly in Newyork, summertime, the
credited collaborators are from San francisco. There's no
'Ice' there... do you feel it's 'exploding energy' from
bjork or are you projecting your own things on this album?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-12-02 20:50 [#00974871]
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hi

you really think there's no ice on vespertine? i find the
beats to be some of her most fractal and glacial.. i agree
it's a bjork stereotype that things are icy but on this
album some of the beats match that description (some are
REALLY warm though)


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-12-02 20:59 [#00974878]
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I remember making beats/sounds for people to listen to,
sitting inside with hot chocolate and marshmallows watching
the snow fall. There was ice, but no juxtaposition of
warmth. It's 'nice' but it doesn't pull in any other ways.
probably I'm really stupid... I felt it a different way.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-12-02 21:05 [#00974880]
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after i posted that i put vespertine on since i haven't
listened to it since july.. i half take it back, it's a lot
more warm than it is icy (even though it's a "winter"
album). i think the pads toward the 2nd half of the album
and a lot of the bassier synth lines throughout make it warm
even though without them some of the drum sounds might be
kind of cold. it's not alienating rhythmically like
autechre, it's pretty inviting.. but there's something about
it that's different from her other albums, i'm not sure what
it is exactly but i do like it a lot. icy's a bad term for
it but it's not in your face beats like homogenic or
accessible house/club/techno like a lot of the songs on post
and debut.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-12-02 21:09 [#00974885]
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It's really fun at the moment.. she's got more notes to play
with after the baby. Birth is soo magical!!


 

offline kochlear from aud-stim.com on 2003-12-02 21:11 [#00974887]
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i took acid to amon tobin's out from out where. i was SO
freaked out during el wraith.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-12-02 21:11 [#00974888]
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birth is soo magical.. so i guess moa's campaign is going
well? ;)

do you know if matthew barney is a first time father? i
wonder what that's like.. his films are so bizarre.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-12-02 21:19 [#00974897]
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I'm such a sceptic!! Barney said I've 'got a nice energy',
maybe I'm stupid, he seemed nice etc but I can't forecast
anyones energy... anyway... all I can really consider is
music honestly. I'll send you some bits when I've got
something..


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 21:19 [#00974898]
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i'm fully aware of where it was recorded, but i think the
intention of that particular album is to invoke a wintry
mood, one of fable to correspond with the serenity of the
domestic life that is a theme of the album. plus, listen to
aurora and tell me its not icy. it is a cliche for her
music, but in this case i think its true.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 21:21 [#00974900]
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i also am projecting my own opinion onto it, as all music is
subjectivly experienced anyway, and i once went walking
after a fresh snowfall with vespertine playing on a portable
cd player. fit the mood perfectly.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-12-02 21:23 [#00974901]
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you don't have to offer anything.. i never got "first
play.mp3" anyway, it was 0 bytes and you didn't send it to
the other ftp..

barney seems nice to me but a bit full of himself.. but
maybe that's just him as a professional, not as a human
being. i look forward to his next film since i don't think
he's done anything outside of the cremaster cycle.. i wonder
how it feels to be done with that after living w/ it for 10
years.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 21:24 [#00974903]
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it does have "warm" beats, but the visual i get is one of
snowfall, ice, and mythical frozen over landscapes. cocoon
may be the exception to this, despite the clicking beat, its
too warm of a song to be anything but what it describes.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-12-02 21:26 [#00974904]
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Nice! Aesthetically it works,


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-12-02 21:27 [#00974905]
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i get the snowfall imagery too but instead of feeling like
i'm outside i feel like i'm inside the house with the
heating system cranked up and a fire going.

i think maybe the strings and choir vocals are the coldest
aspects of the album.. but still the songs remain relatively
warm


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 21:28 [#00974906]
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yeah. i see what you mean in that in terms of sound the
album is actually quite warm, but, as the topic says, the
visual i get is just the opposite, but a warm wintry visual
nonetheless.
and, speaking of bjork, i can't seem to stop listening to
"our hands". this is like the seventh or eighth time in a
row i've listened to the song today.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 21:30 [#00974908]
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i like to avoid using the words "ice" or "goddess" in
combination with "bjork" but vespertine just forces me to do
that for some reason. lack of imagination maybe.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-12-02 21:31 [#00974909]
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have you heard the early mix of "our hands" from the spring
2001 vespertine promo? i like it more, it's glitchier.. i
thought the single mix compromised too much


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-12-02 21:33 [#00974910]
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The inside bit was the fun focus bit! Pretend you're stood
near the drummer and the vocalist, the horns and the bass,
the rocking chait with hot chocolate and the window with
snowfall outside..


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-12-02 21:33 [#00974911]
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exactly the version i've been listening to. yeah, i like the
space created in that one more, but i can't seem to find a
version that doesn't sound like it was taken from a webcast
stream. its warbly for some reason.


 

offline tragedy from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-12-03 08:18 [#00975344]
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when i listen to saw 2 i picture the woods in
december...allwaysss.
and when i listen to radiohead while i'm sleeping i dream
about certain people.
when i listen to tool when i sleep i always dream that i'm
swimming but i can't see land and it's pitch black.
it's the scariest dream i've ever had, and i've had it 3
times while listening to aenima...


 


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