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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 12:20 [#00962258]
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click here
do you find it scary or is it just me?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 12:21 [#00962261]
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click on Statement of Principles
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-23 12:27 [#00962273]
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NWO... :P
Notice how Dan Quayle is in on this?
A worldwide empire hasn't existed yet, but it's only a matter of time... who here reckons America will be the one to "achieve" it?
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-11-23 12:33 [#00962288]
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this make no difference to me because america is in control of the english military anyway and the goverment too
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 12:35 [#00962290]
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A world war is what I fear when it becomes obvious what they intend.
Lets hope someone decent wins the next American election... though I fear it wouldn't make a difference looking at the names signing the document
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 12:37 [#00962294]
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"This is the new Mein Kampf. Only Hitler did not have nuclear weapons. It's the scariest document I've ever read in my life." -- Dr. Helen Caldicott
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 12:40 [#00962302]
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how can they so openly state their intentions for global domination?
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 12:43 [#00962304]
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A worldwide empire hasn't existed yet, but it's only a matter of time... who here reckons America will be the one to "achieve" it?
they won't achieve it, they'll just fuck up the world in the process of trying to
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-11-23 12:43 [#00962305]
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middle eastern countrys do it all the time by wanting a muslim world
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-23 12:45 [#00962306]
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Truly powerful individuals don't bother with politicking- they don't have to be seen to be democratic or fair, who is going to punish them for it? Have you ever seen Rupert Murdoch in interview?
The same can be said of international law. If you are the most powerful country or one of their allies, why would you bother to adhere to it? Who will enforce it if you do not?
Make no mistake- laws of any sort do not apply to the most powerful.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 12:47 [#00962310]
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CNN had a vote and 93% people voted that Terrorism is worse since the Iraq occupation
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-23 12:49 [#00962313]
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Are you contesting that a world government will not come about eventually, perhaps in 1000 years time (assuming of course we don't all die in the meanwhile) or just that it won't be America that will do it?
Nobsmuggler: Very true, people call Coulter a Nazi bitch when she mentions killing Muslim countries leaders and converting the populance to Christianity to bring about peace, but seem not to understand that Muslim countries want the same thing (well, a Muslim world government...)
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 12:50 [#00962314]
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I would have thought the United Nations would be an organisation that enforced international law... it was horrifying to see how powerless they were when the US attacked Iraq.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-11-23 12:51 [#00962317]
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this is an arguement i have with people all the time there is more of everything now days because of key factors
tv radio newspapers internet word of mouth phones mobile phones and a world population crisis that is out of control more people to commit crime and more ways to know about it
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 12:56 [#00962324]
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I think it could, but only when humans aren't as stupid and destructive as they are now... you can't force you dominance on the world, just look at the Roman Empire. I think in the distant future (if Earth is still here) that it will come about only because the people of the world want it.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 13:01 [#00962327]
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In the updated document it talks about how they must have complete miltary control of space and complete control of the internet.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-23 13:01 [#00962328]
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"I think in the distant future (if Earth is still here) that it will come about only because the people of the world want it."
Yeah i think i agree with you there. But i dont think america would do it. I think it'd be the UK or something.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-23 13:03 [#00962331]
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I disagree, I think with technological advances (and by depriving the enemy of them) it could possibly come about by force. There's also the cultural method- USA culture is very widespread, look in any airport or capital city in the developed world...
Yes, as you say the UN had no power over the USA as the UN is nowhere near as strong a military power (lots of UN soldiers come from poor countries and are actually very poorly trained/equipped, despite what you see on TV).
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-11-23 13:03 [#00962332]
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this is ridiculous. has anyone here heard of laura ingraham? i work at a library and we just got a new book by her called "shut up and sing." it's the most unsubstatiated right wing piece of crap i've ever seen, and everyone who works here can't understand why we spent $25 on this book.
i'm all for people having their own views, but this is getting serious.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-23 13:09 [#00962344]
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You have to carry right wing books, just like you have to carry left wing ones. It's not for librarians to decide what political material people have access to.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-11-23 13:13 [#00962350]
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oh i know i know, it's just that the book really is a fallicy. the first page is just bullshit!
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-11-23 13:15 [#00962352]
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it's like she heard something from someone who heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who......and so on. go read the first page of the book, if you dare! the only thing true about it is that people really will find it stupid ("they'll probably think this book is stupid too"). it's almost as if she set herself up to be looked at as a moron.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-23 13:16 [#00962353]
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a review on amazon.com
"the best book I read in my life. gonna buy it for all my friends, wish lara would run fur prezident. she's so perdy, wish they wud kut down every tree so every redneck couuld get a copy"
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APeSHiTZ
from ¤BANgbANG¤ on 2003-11-23 13:24 [#00962363]
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law without order isnt as bada s order without law- jefferson
its dangerous to be right when the government is wrong- Voltaire
if your wondering about the foil its to block the sattelite thats spying on me - Simpson
welcome to 1984 ladies and gentlemen- motherfuckin me....
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Dozier
from United States on 2003-11-23 16:29 [#00962640]
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nice quotes
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-11-23 16:35 [#00962649]
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST..... I've never been more SICKENED than I am right now.... and yes that does include when I clicked on that dildo being shoved in a dick link
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Dozier
from United States on 2003-11-23 17:44 [#00962742]
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fuck man, i'd completely forgotten about that. thanks A LOT!
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