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offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-19 20:37 [#00957821]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker



watching the news is just like having someone shit in your
face.

It's about as informative, and leaves you with the same bad
taste in your mouth afterwords.

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The more I study politics and media, the more I mother
fucking hate the news and resent the media in general. :(


It's all a political horse race, political strategy with no
context and no history.

Fuck.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-19 20:39 [#00957822]
Points: 9601 Status: Lurker | Followup to BlatantEcho: #00957821



yeah, the news always is trying to frighten me it seems.

"TODAY'S TOP STORY: Skittles cause venerial disease! Tonight
at 10..."


 

offline Jazembo from The Earth ball on 2003-11-19 20:42 [#00957825]
Points: 2788 Status: Regular



I stopped reading/watching the news a long time ago. It is
all a load of shit as you said. Its either somebody's
opinion that i don't really care about, or it's a load of
lies from the politicians. Sometimes I wish the lawyers,
politicians, governments, police and military would all go
and try to fuck the sun.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-19 20:43 [#00957826]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker | Followup to Oddioblender: #00957822



"if it bleads, it leads"

It's all conflict driven. While the media is certainly
free, it historically needs to provide an informative link
from the people, to the government, as they are linked very
closey in a democracy.

Present day media fails us so much in that regard.

I don't even watch the History channel anymore. Gawd


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-19 20:45 [#00957832]
Points: 9601 Status: Lurker | Followup to BlatantEcho: #00957826



i rarely watch TV at all actually.... usually all i watch is
movie channels, IFC and Comedy Central.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-19 20:46 [#00957833]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



it completely depends on the source.

plenty of places on the net that give a mostly honest view
of current events.


 

offline Jazembo from The Earth ball on 2003-11-19 20:46 [#00957835]
Points: 2788 Status: Regular | Followup to Oddioblender: #00957832



What's IFC Oddioblender?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-19 20:48 [#00957838]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



I'm For Cunt?


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-19 20:49 [#00957841]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00957833



I disagree, with very few expections.

The BBC is pretty good, and the NYTimes you can typically
count on to provide facts over partisan reporting.

HOWEVER, 99.99999% of all media applies way to many filters
to product that reaches the market.

Advertisers, owners, editors, socio-economic upswing of
"reporters" etc.

News = conflict, now a days. A bill working it's way
through congress (an American example) is not news unless
the Democrats and Republicans raise a big fuss about it.

The recent Fillibuster in Congress was awesome in that it
PROVED checks and balances work, but instead of reporting
that, it was DEMO v. GOP!

It's strategy driven and comicly moronic


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-19 20:51 [#00957850]
Points: 9601 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00957838



actually, it's Independent Film Channel - they play some
excellent flicks now and then, like documentaries on classic
horror directors Romero, Carpenter, Hooper, but i guess it
could be I'm For Cunt as well since they occasionally play
"Y Tu Mama Tambien" and David Cronenberg's "Crash," which
are basically softcore porn.


 

offline Amnesiac from ERIE (United States) on 2003-11-19 20:52 [#00957851]
Points: 2084 Status: Lurker



GET YOUR LATEST BEN AND JEN NEWS at 10:00


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-19 20:53 [#00957852]
Points: 9601 Status: Lurker



Btw, Y Tu Mama Tambien is an excellent film.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-19 20:54 [#00957853]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to BlatantEcho: #00957841



The Guardian is good too.

and there are more.

but still, you named a few yourself. so - read their news.

I don't see the big problem.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-19 20:54 [#00957854]
Points: 9601 Status: Lurker | Followup to Amnesiac: #00957851



now there's two people i'd like to gut with a rusty
fishhook.

PLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSEEEEEEE
DIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-19 20:56 [#00957859]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator | Followup to Oddioblender: #00957850



David Cronenberg is incredible.

or, well, his work is.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-19 21:04 [#00957868]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker | Followup to qrter: #00957853



I do read the NYTimes, daily

However, the majority of Americans do not.

My problem is that with the large majority of news sources
available, INFOtaintment sure sells a lot better than hard
news, Americans are not properly informed in the traditional
channels they should be informed through.

I resent the upward mobility of the press fixating itself in
the news coverage today.

--------
In short, while the media is free and independent, it has
long held the role here of conveyor of public business.

Analysis is expected, horse race politics is not. The media
has warped it's traditional duty, and market share is more
important than important issue penetration.

I remain concerned for the general public, at the disconnect
and divide being formed, and the distrust of government that
is inherently assumed when everything political is treated
like a winner take all sports game.


 

offline D-Steak from Kansas City, Mo. (United States) on 2003-11-19 21:23 [#00957883]
Points: 1376 Status: Regular



Wait a minute

The local, nightly news is complete shit, yeah thats
right..

but whats wrong with newspapers, magazines, and such? Its
just givin the people what they want to know.

(im studying journailism, so im maybe a weeeeee bit biased).


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-11-19 21:24 [#00957884]
Points: 5678 Status: Lurker



the problem is incremental, and it's a genuine concern that
reputable news sources are drowned out by the overwhelming
trend of "news as entertainment."

not surprisingly, the people who are aware enough to be
concerned in the first place are the people who are familiar
with those reputable sources. but when you live in a
democratic republic with a majority that seems to perceive
the world through an "entertainment tonight" filter, and is
unaware and therefore unconcerned about challenging the
situation, and becoming increasingly vulnerable to
manipulation and deception, it's an alarming concern.

when news is made a commodity, and profit becomes the
primary motive for providing it, the news will be shaped to
sell to as many who will consume it. everything takes a
back seat to the majority's collective obsessions: their
personal appearance, conflict, sexuality and celebrities...
unfortunately, we can't go back home again. we will have to
see these trends play out in the long term, and it will be
painful.

so put on a happy face! : )


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-19 21:31 [#00957888]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker | Followup to plaidzebra: #00957884



"we can't go back home again"

well said, even though I wish you were wrong.

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In the end, the only way you could be wrong, is if people
just up and stopped watching trash on TV.

In the same way that people bitch about The Daily Mirro in
Britain, or the NY Post in America, those rags are still
around for a reasons, people are buying them, a lot of them,
and keeping them in business.

I find the gap between The Wall Street Journal, which is
pretty good about avoid a lot of bias, and The Economist, to
be too big to bump a college educated reader like myself
into the upper ranks of media publication.

I wish there was an Economist Lite that came out everyday,
and everyone read it, and understood it.

No horse race, none of this shit.

I haven't turned on a TV in weeks, not even for college
football, and I don't intend to for a while. I feel so much
better.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-19 21:32 [#00957889]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker | Followup to BlatantEcho: #00957888



appologies for typos, I'm typing a paper and posting, and
the paper has spell checker, the board does not....... :)


 

offline Dozier from United States on 2003-11-19 21:41 [#00957894]
Points: 2080 Status: Lurker



i try to stay away from certain kinds of media outlets.

only political oriented tv i watch is o'reilly factor on fox
news. with him i at least get the impression he truly thinks
about the issues and forms his own opinions as opposed to
spewing the official party line.



 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-20 14:18 [#00958768]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker | Followup to Dozier: #00957894



FOX News......bahhhh


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2003-11-20 14:56 [#00958810]
Points: 3349 Status: Lurker | Followup to BlatantEcho: #00957821



I agree, not that I have any experience of facial shiting
mind you.


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-20 15:11 [#00958827]
Points: 4570 Status: Lurker | Followup to BlatantEcho: #00957821



Well, you're in America, it's understandable that news you
watch is shit.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-11-20 15:12 [#00958828]
Points: 14294 Status: Lurker



o god. fox news. fuck my ass.


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-20 15:28 [#00958843]
Points: 4731 Status: Lurker



i went to america a few years back, when i was there the two
towers thing happened, watching the news for that just
confirmed everything i thought about american news. Turn
off, enjoy life instead, coz when its good, its oh so good,
and when its gone, its gone


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-20 17:07 [#00958944]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker | Followup to aphextriplet: #00958843



however, the media, especially in a democratic society (make
your jokes here) NEEDS to be an instrument of the people.

It MUST convey what goes on in government to the people.

While I agree, life can be lived without televison, and
without news, representative democracy, I would say, can
not.

I don't mind the news, but I do mind the sensational horse
race shit on the telly and in print currently.

Perhaps if enough people tune out, news media can tune into
what the people really want and need, but until then, I fear
greatly for the educationa and dissemination of information
among my fellow Americans.


 

offline AlfredPMcLovely from the country that will end up d (Turkmenistan) on 2003-11-20 17:11 [#00958948]
Points: 1158 Status: Lurker



My favorite "news" piece the local news put together in
recent memory was one on the dangers of drinking water. The
tagline for the commercials was "Can too much water kill
you?" and something like "Water, more harmful than we
thought!". Basically they did this whole lame piece
speculating about the dangers of water, and in the last
second they made their conclusion which was "no, water is
good".

I also hate how there is actually less than ten minutes of
actual news, the rest is just previews of whats coming up
next which is just previews of whats coming up next ad
infinitum


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-11-20 21:19 [#00959228]
Points: 7210 Status: Lurker | Followup to AlfredPMcLovely: #00958948



that's fucking typical, seriously


 


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