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hey, this is for anyone signed to any type of label.... be it mp3 or CD based... but more for the CD based people have you been able to keep the rights etc to your releases? Im just curious... cause I know sometimes you have to give the record company the rights, but I also know that sometimes you dont... so yeah... anyone here who are on labels have any input? thanks! |
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it all really depends on the label. usually it will be stated in the contract. crazyfungus let me keep all rights to whatever music i released through them, so no worries there. |
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i recommend copyrighting all works through the US Copyright Office before seriously releasing anything. The only requirements for a work to be copyrighted is it must have been "published" "published" = made available to the public or exchanged hands as a bonafide gift. i had "Welcome to Gusland," my first album i published by myself in CDR form, copyrighted through US Copyright Office. It costs 30 bucks and you send them two copies. You don't get the form back for a few months, maybe more, but it's officially copyright the moment it arrives there. |
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yeah... so its the label then? does anyone know about warp/mu/merck/etc? Im sure the people like aphex boc etc, all control their rights to their music... but how about not "idm superstars"? anyone in the know? |
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If you see rarndarski you should ask him he might be able to tell you. I seem to remember that he got signed or something... |
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yeah, I had him in mind... Merck Records i believe |
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i know for a fact that aphex has his own music publishing thing (chrysalis/richard d james music) so if you want to be safe you'll want to start a publishing "company" under someone like ASCAP or BMG.... though they both suck, i think there's others.... |
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so... hows that work? how much do I have to pay? How much do I have to do? what does it involve? |
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actually, now that i think of it, Kid606's publishing company is through ASCAP... |
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You're talking soo much rubbish! Publishing has nothing to do with the record company that sells you music. Where are you getting your facts from? |
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you can self copyright by burning a cd then putting it in a package then mailing to yourself. then you never open it and it's got the postage stamp with a date. it's legit in a court of law and everything. |
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and everything...... It's not, how many legal battles have you won this way kochlear? |
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no no... im not talking about me copyrighting... im talking about how does it work if you get signed to a label... will they let you keep control, or ask for the rights? I know it differs... which is why Im asking peoples experiances |
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Publishing (collecting royalties), Recording (Mechanical royalties) are two seperate things. |
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lets just say... I made a record. I send it to get mastered, and the record label will put it out... whats the chances of me controlling the songs? |
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Depends what you've signed... Hopefully they've only got the rights to exploit your recordings mechanically, ie. CD, Vinyl etc. In what way do you want to 'control' the music after it's in the public domain? |
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look at some WARP CDs : : they got the (c) and the (p) "Warp Records Limited" that's the tracks themselves (the actual music) - - (c) ... and the recorded CD/LP material version - - (p) also, most artists on Warp have their publishing through Warp (Published by Warp Music) some peeps have co-publishing, and some have their own publishing (like aphex) kcinsu, you NEED to buy a music business book and READ it man. seriously if you are going to make your music you career - - ie, a living. ascap and bmi don't suck. sorry to whoever said that, cause you're wrong. I've made thousands of dollars this year through them. and it's free to sign up. make sure you get a writers account AND a publishing account. do your research and you'll see. good luck! |
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well, i've never been tops on technical issues.... :D you have permission to slap me. |
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nah, man. no big deal. just trying to clear up some confusion. also, you don't have to be "signed" to have publishing royalites come to your mailbox. keep that in mind. |
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I don't want to slap you! I'm trying to help out. |
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Isn't that what I just said? You're focusing on the few US publishing companies that are pretty shit really. If you want publishing income you need to go with a multinational, not that nonsense. |
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examples? |
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yeah, Im going to be taking a class on music buisness sometime soon... gonna learn all the details there... I am just curious for now. I dont have anything going down ;) |
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i gots all mine on 'memory cards' :) |
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haha, you're such an idiot... I wish you'd get banned already!! |
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i think the reason this "poor man's copyright" works is because by mailing yourself your c.d. you prove the date of it's origination. the post office will date the package proving that whatever contained within the package was created by the person before the post date. |
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admit it, you dont know shit of what he is talking about. |
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Zeus, I have record out on Merck and we have the rights to our music. Merck produced it for us but we have all rights to it. If you get a record out on an electronic label you will come to understand that you will be working directly with the label owner, they are cool, and they wont fuck you over, this is small music. i can't speak for warp though, although I know a few of the artsts, they don't talk about the owners. |
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i own all the rights to my music and my music is lisenced to the label for a specified period of time. in other words, i own the music, but they get to put it out for X amount of months or years. after that time, i can stick it on another label if i choose. small electronic labels are cool and generally willing to work with you. |
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how many electronic labels would you say are out there and those of you who are signed, how much royalty/residules have u collected so far? |
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there are hundreds of electronic labels out there. just like there are hundreds of other indie type labels. |
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rarn and port: thanks guys! :) |
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i was thinking, this thread is a clever idea to narrow down the pool of potential xlt celebreties. lets see... hmm.. well i don't think i got any new clues. |
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no problem zeus. |
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Hahahaaaaha, can't you see, there arn't any. There, I said it!! |
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well i'm getting these upcoming live shows like i hope, then you can add me to that list - HA! =D |
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btw, rarndaraki and portland - congratulations. =D |
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ive had three releases through two different labels (dumphuck, and raw42). dumphuck let me retain ownership and all rights, where raw42 (who released a trak on a compilation) own the rights to that recording. this bassically meen, i still have the rights to that song, but not that recording. if i want to re-release that trak, i would have to make a new mix / recording of it. |
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Hee Hee! I was honestly trying to help... why don't you post something interesting/usefull instead of your yawnsome euro blog? anyway... |
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why don't you post something interesting... tell me a story about b-boying in the late 80s |
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I might just do that! instead of replying to a statement posted days ago by a grey idiot. Ho ho.. how's things? Shall I send you a new b thing that I've been playing with? |
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i'm serious, i've been wanting to hear a b-boying story for 2 years now. i don't think jand or xceque were doing that so it's up to you to tell me what it was like in the you kay. send me whatever, you know i'm interested, but only if you mean it |
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I'll send it now.. |
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i'm going to ask you about b-boying in the future, it's on my list of 65 unanswered (half are unasked) questions. *tags your new house* |
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b-boying in the future! now that's interesting! It's on it's way to your e-mail..... |
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b-boying in the future.. is anyone still b-boying in the present? the email might bounce back, ftp'ing is better for mp3's.. sometimes i think graffiti.net just rejects any email w/ an mp3 attachment but i dunno |
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the track is sooo James Bond like! I can imagine sihlouettes of naked ladies dancing and swinging on an oversized pistol with this playing. *chuckle* |
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wtf |
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hehe.. that 808 state track "ooops" always reminded me of bond. when is your vacation to canari? |
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January probably, all I can think about is the next japan thing in a few days.... stress to the max!!! but it'll be fun. Have you checked your mail? |
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