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quantum_echo
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-13 17:02 [#00949138]
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just read the heart-breaking heavier than heaven (cobains biography) and i just noticed a few similarites...
"In his first imagining of the album (Nevermind), Kurt had wanted a "Girl" -side (composed of all the songs about Tobi) and a "Boy" -side (to include "Sliver," "Sappy," and "Polly" among others, all the songs about his family or his inner world). (1990)
Also things like his choice of song titles are seem to be along the same wavelength.
Kurt would also do mad things like refer to himself in the 3rd person and call himself Kurdt, etc.
Theres more stuff i cant remember but i wudnt be suprised if Kurt was an influence on Richard (who states he doesnt have any).
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-11-13 17:06 [#00949147]
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perhaps. I have not yet read that book... But Nirvana did some really good music, especially (in my opinion) the "Nevermind"-album.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-11-13 17:08 [#00949150]
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Nirvana > Aphex Twin In Utero > Nevermind Cheese > Sausage
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quantum_echo
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-13 17:09 [#00949151]
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i agree but maybe
In Utero > Nevermind
that book made me cry
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-13 17:17 [#00949161]
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I'm sure RDJ would love the comparison
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-11-13 17:18 [#00949164]
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Naaaah. I remember rich saying he hated Jesus and Mary Chain when he was first making music, so it seems a bit unlikely nirvana / kurt would be much of an influence. Both slightly warped geniuses, but in pretty different ways i'd say.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-13 17:23 [#00949167]
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i think rdj doesnt like as much exposure as kurt liked...
when it comes to music they are (were) both not schooled artists doing brilliant music
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-11-13 17:26 [#00949170]
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Yeah, Kurt Cobain sure loved all the exposure he got.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-13 17:28 [#00949174]
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(i think you're being sarcastic there!?)
dont you think he was promoting nirvana? it was all bout him...novoselic and grohl hardly got any attention
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-11-13 17:31 [#00949183]
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he hated it!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-13 17:34 [#00949186]
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it might have seemed that way on the outside...but face it - he was doing everything to be in the media constantly
not to confuse anyone - he was me hero at that time!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-11-13 17:34 [#00949187]
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Yeah, of course, I'm always sarcastic.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-13 17:40 [#00949194]
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i see...then there's confusion in your upper sentence
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-11-13 17:44 [#00949199]
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I know. :)
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-13 17:49 [#00949207]
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nevermind is the best grunge album ever made. end of story.
you ever wonder what's going to happen to his daughter? she must be so disturbed...
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-11-13 17:58 [#00949214]
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in utero is so much better!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-13 17:59 [#00949215]
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i prefer in utero as well
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-11-13 18:02 [#00949218]
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incesticide is my favourite
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2003-11-13 18:03 [#00949219]
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if aphex says he hate something, he means he like it
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-11-13 18:06 [#00949221]
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In Utero is better than lamp-shades.
IMO
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-11-13 18:07 [#00949222]
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hmmm..... compares....
nevermind: smells like teen spirit in bloom lithium polly come as you are
in utero: scentless apprentice pennyroyal tea milk it all apologies frances farmer will have her revenge on seattle heart-shaped box...
yeah, now that i think about, while NEVERMIND is a fantastic album, i really don't find the second half to be standout. Whereas I enjoy about 90% of In Utero, it's too bad i don't own it anymore.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-13 18:20 [#00949230]
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yeah! As if you can comparise kurt cobain with rdj? what are you people: stupid? i know one thing for sure: they both made music.
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quantum_echo
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-13 18:20 [#00949231]
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kurt wanted to be famous until he was, wanted to sell records until he did. nothing was ever as he imagined it to be. i imagine he wanted to be alive until he was born.
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quantum_echo
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-13 18:22 [#00949234]
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are u ignoring the whole girl/boy theory which rdj adopted?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-13 18:23 [#00949235]
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i stilll havent read heavier in heaven, but i do have the journals, which are an amazing look into kurt's soul. relaly shows you what he thought of everything. amazing shit. bit it would be awesome if it turned out to be that afx was inspired by one of the greatest, most emotional musisians of all time.
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quantum_echo
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-13 18:24 [#00949239]
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link
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-11-13 18:30 [#00949246]
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i wish kurt had lived, i think nevermind and in utero might have been sort of a parallel to richards selected ambient works. simplistic, yet effective, songs. come as you are is my favorite nirvana song.
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welt
on 2003-11-14 06:15 [#00949757]
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kurt cobain sucks meter-long camel cocks.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-11-14 06:16 [#00949759]
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No he doesn't. He's dead.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-14 06:37 [#00949776]
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he's doing that in heaven :)
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-11-14 09:45 [#00949964]
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It doesn't have to be a theory he adopted, when I was younger I somtimes imagined that some songs were "boy songs" and other "girl songs". So I doubt it's his idea in the first place.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-11-14 10:25 [#00950016]
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i can't believe how overrated nirvana is. out of all the grunge bands, nirvana was probably the shittiest out of the lot and they made it the biggest. Give me soundgarden any day.
it seems a lot of younger kids are attracted to the whole cobain attitude. i was.
i doubt rdj was influenced by the whole boy girl thing. like atli said, anyone can make that up.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-11-14 10:28 [#00950019]
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I can't believe how overused the word "overrated" is.
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-11-14 10:42 [#00950036]
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indeed
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-14 10:44 [#00950040]
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i can
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-14 10:45 [#00950041]
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another "amazing" co-incidence. neither artist uses fades at the end of their songs
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2003-11-14 10:45 [#00950042]
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mostly its used for lack of a better word
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-11-14 11:12 [#00950070]
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the word lame is so lame. it sucks ass.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-14 12:07 [#00950122]
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Eminem must be a huge Aphex fan:
Richard D. James Album = The Marshall Mathers LP
Surely he must have nicking the idea? An idea like that could only have been born during the 90's... just like that Girl/Boy bizniss.
And Cobain was great. Overanalyzed because of the huge microscope on him, but great. Too bad they couldn't have sold 50,000 records.
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