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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:47 [#00944222]
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I heard this theory day ago. explanation ? if you love deep , then you want to be always with the person you love. but beeing always causes troubles - you cant do things that you have done earlier coz some of them might hurt now. so-the more time you spend with person - the less thongs you can do, and finally , love became hate .
bullshit for me , but in every theory is a drop of truth, where is it here ?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:47 [#00944223]
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it is not real story or somethin - pure theory. i dont know if person who told me this is in a partnership of some kind - i heard only words.
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nacmat
on 2003-11-10 15:49 [#00944227]
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love is an extreme hate is the other
extremes are very close many times
both are strong feelings the further you can be from love is indiference, not hate
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:49 [#00944228]
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ok im going for a cigarette - when i come back i expect discussion here , bump your hearts you stones...:P
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-10 15:50 [#00944229]
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i htink of more like a fine line between the two, you may not even realize the difference if you end up hating someone when you thought you loved them before
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nacmat
on 2003-11-10 15:50 [#00944231]
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I was just talking to a friend on the phone like 5 minutes ago... he is having a serious crisis with her girlfriend and he told me he hated her... I know thats not true... he loves her, but someitmes loving hurts a lot
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-10 15:51 [#00944233]
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if by love being one extreme and hate being the other you mean theyre opposites, theyre really not, indifference is more like the opposite of both. but undoubtedly theres a strong connectiong between the two
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:51 [#00944234]
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hate is extreme too , at least for me . look at this : if you love deep - you can go very quick from it to hate , and this kind of hate that is stronger than simple " i dont like him/her"
love makes possibility to hate someone more strong that anything else , right ?
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-10 15:54 [#00944241]
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yeah love and hate are both extremes, but both on the same side really, because theyre both forms of caring intensely about what someone does/how they feel etc. if you love or hate someone, you care how they feel, it just depends if you want them to feel good or bad.
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nacmat
on 2003-11-10 15:55 [#00944243]
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hate is extreme too , at least for me _______________________________
thats what I said
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 15:56 [#00944246]
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indeed
but can we draw a line betwen ? there must be line somewhere....
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 15:59 [#00944260]
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nonono, love has nothing at all to do with hate.... there's love and then there's letting go.
once you let go, the memories are gone for a long time. until some how they come up again... evn tho it won't matter.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:01 [#00944265]
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they can have similar characteristics, but they are not the same thing at all, anyone whos ever actually loved another person and hated someone will know that, it is pretty obvious.
I mean.. shit............
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:02 [#00944273]
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" i love you " " i hate you "
sound similar , these are most common words , very simple to speak...
why you can tell it so easily one after another ? perfect combination ?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:04 [#00944276]
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tragedy: love and hate are a lot of different things ..... like they can mean slightly to a lot of different things, for different people ofcourse....
like you almost describe love there....... but thats not how ive felt it in my life.... ive had 4 serious girlfriends in my almost 21 years on this planet and all of them lasted about 1 year.... or more... so ofcourse there was love there in some cases, strong too ... but really... in time, love is another feeling to forget. or embrace, or whatever the fuck you want to do with it.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:04 [#00944278]
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i think ill avoid posting in this thread anymore, just to deprive all of you from the drama that would ensue...
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:05 [#00944282]
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i dunno, just be happy there'e love, love is amazing, i LOVE being in LOVE!!
I think everyone goes through a phaze whre they becom jaded, and don't believe love exists... but when they come to realizations, and gain self worth and values... that's when everything becomes good.
my life is so fucking good right now.as compared to months ago, and yeaaarrsss ago, because i've grown up, and know life is really not that bad. um.... yeahhh
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-11-10 16:05 [#00944285]
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Stop thinking so much... it's bad for you.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:07 [#00944289]
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thats good for you , but isnt it true that love ( and only love) can produce strongest hate ?
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nacmat
on 2003-11-10 16:08 [#00944292]
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options:
1 my english is very bad
2 none of you has a decent reading comprehension
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:11 [#00944302]
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3. this is discussion and everyone of us has personal way of understanding. you r words are part of discussion but dont try to close it by what you said. My english is probably worse than anything that you read on this board but you explanation is not satysfying for me , i would like to find strong line between "love" and "hate" , and i dont think that it will go easily......
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:12 [#00944303]
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tragedy: your name is funny cause when you fall out of love, its a tragedy and it feels that way for a long fucking time.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:14 [#00944312]
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i have personal question for ya : what can you say about your partnerships ?
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nacmat
on 2003-11-10 16:14 [#00944313]
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there are no lines in feelings
love is one extreme, hate is another
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:15 [#00944318]
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reflx> really? i didn't know that, i've never been in that situation....
*sarcasm*
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:17 [#00944320]
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it seems that you have strictly different point of view than me.
just add "IMO"
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:17 [#00944322]
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hyakusen: well like i said ive had a couple pretty long relationships, that were all pretty damn serious to the both of us. they usually ended with the girl breaking up with me, because overall im the kind of guy that wants to "stay" in one spot with a girl, to be in love, to that one person. Just the way iam really. there was once or twice i broke up with them cause I just didnt see it going anywhere really, before things got serious ya know. what could i say about them? ive learned one hell of a lot about myself and humanity through dealing in love and sorrow with women. theyve made me the happiest ive been and theyve made me the saddest ive ever been.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:17 [#00944324]
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and i think that there is a line , it exist everywhere , even between me and you
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:18 [#00944327]
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tragedy: yeah well.... shit.... after being through it enough times you get a protective layering on you....... it gets better everytime you break up... fuck.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:18 [#00944328]
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i dunno, i've nver fallen out of love, while in a relationship. i'm not in love with any one in the moment, but i have a feeling i will be soon. bing in love feels so safe.okok...
love= safeness, and being scared TRUE love= happiness hatered= fear
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:19 [#00944330]
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thanks
"theyve made me the happiest ive been and theyve made me the
saddest ive ever been. "
so if these feelings are so close to eachother there must be pure connection between them
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:20 [#00944333]
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love = scared = fear = hatered
right ?
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 16:21 [#00944335]
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"there are no lines in feelings "
Exactly.All feelings are the combination of different emotions.One doesn't simply love nor hate someone.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:21 [#00944337]
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i've never been in true love, but i know i will eventually.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-10 16:22 [#00944340]
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hate = when you want someone to be dead - i dont want that, so i guess i dont hate anyone...yet...
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-11-10 16:23 [#00944344]
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all combinations are going into one point, isnt that true ?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:23 [#00944345]
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hyakusen: well yeah there is a connection, but not the one I think your looking for, like the connection is the other person in the relationship, not love.... cause they cause it when they do good or bad on your part or whatnot.
but in a way what your looking for here is right too. in a way.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:24 [#00944346]
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lov is happiness... except happiness comes and goes,... love doesn't really. so ok i'm confused now too... haha, but... don't dwell on it, just b happy : D i'm so happy lately. it's wondrful.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:24 [#00944347]
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tragedy: ive been in true love more than once.... and have had it blow up in my face, all I could say to someone in your situation is .... have fun while you can, and sieze the day kind of thing, cause shit dont last forever, ESPECIALLY when your young. I could not stress that enough....
I mean.... fuck you either get married or you dont.
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 16:29 [#00944358]
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I really can't coment on such a matter,as I have never been in love,but I can put it into context.
This really makes my head hurt on how to explain it. And the language barriers doesn't help.
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:34 [#00944365]
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i've been in love, i've been with people for a loooonggg time, and had my heart broken more than once, realllly badly, trust me i know. but once you realize bing alone isn't that bad, and gain self worth and respct, and value, it's ok to b alone. if you aren't happy being alon, or by yourself sometimes, .... how can anyon else be happy being with you?
ralization is a bitch, but it's life. and life is good, once you
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telica
from london/york on 2003-11-10 16:34 [#00944367]
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emotion is relative. we wouldn't appreciate happiness if we never had to deal with sadness. it would be meaningless.
that's what i tell myself when i feel crappy anyway :)
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-10 16:36 [#00944373]
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It is true..."For what is life without dark" and all the rest of the sayings.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:37 [#00944375]
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tragedy: well well,, smart girl. youve got knowledge that so many dont have on love.... first had experience.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-11-10 16:41 [#00944382]
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-10 16:42 [#00944383]
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i put neet on my knees today, caus i bought a skirt at a thrift store, and a raiosor just didn't cut it, and now my knes are itchy and irritated...
on a better note, this skirt rocks, it's from express brand new and i got it for 2 bucks!
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-11-10 16:43 [#00944387]
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take it off for me, will yoU ?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-11-10 16:46 [#00944390]
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tradedy: vallue village? buy more look poor? hhahaahaa no thats cool.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-11-10 23:10 [#00944840]
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when you love someone it causes feelings to be raw and it's very easy to become paranoid or be hurt by things you normally wouldn't give a second thought.
and when you get hurt you hate
a bad explanation but it works
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-11-10 23:29 [#00944862]
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After the many many many years of loving and hating I narrowed it down to this:
The chase is always better then the catch.
Extreme stimualtion floats my boat. Insane hate or insane love rocks. When your dead you feel nothing so might as well feel it all now while you can ! lol
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