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offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 03:02 [#00938862]
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I think it's time for a new area in electronic music,
please give me your reply to this if you think we've done it
all or any suggestions what area's we forgot so far.


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-11-07 03:04 [#00938863]
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i think we have about 10-20 years before weve done
everything possible, and after that all music will try to be
catchy or emotional, no experimental music will be left....


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 03:04 [#00938864]
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Ethiopia


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 03:12 [#00938866]
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experimental music will always exists, cause it's about
exploring new boundries, i guess. Ethiopia maybe?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-07 03:56 [#00938901]
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its time idm goes to expriment with music made out of voices
only


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-11-07 03:59 [#00938904]
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was it mira calix that did album out of insect sounds...it
didnt sound anything like insects


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 04:37 [#00938948]
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Mira is discovering as many others, but what are the new
area's we are not hearing, or seeing yet? "To be or not to
be, that's the question."


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-07 04:46 [#00938956]
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Ethiopion-Break-Noizecore is where it's at.

Tolstoyed, yep, it was her... I tend to agree it sounded
nothing like insects for the most part either.


 

offline Bob Mcbob on 2003-11-07 04:56 [#00938974]
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i didnt know insects even made noises, i thought they were
too small. Ive seen a few documentarys showing that wildlife
shows fake the sounds of insects.


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 05:24 [#00938993]
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There's so much vast experimentalism been done over the last
few decades that these days anything new is often just an
expansion on a current genre. I think most of the big leaps
have been done.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 05:38 [#00939002]
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You lot heard of any of this Grimey Garage stuff...or 8
Bar...or Eski-Beat...people like Wiley...

Very underground at moment..(altho Dizzee Rascal has broken
thru; not strictly grime but from same roots...)...

Check out some of the London pirates if you wanna hear
some...most stream on the net as well nowadays...

And don't imagine for one moment that music will ever run
out...as long as there are artists with soul, treats are in
store...

"Where there's trust there be treats, when we fuck we hear
beats..."...fuck I love Tricky...

PLUS...there are 100s of years of music out there...I've
even been listening to some choir music recently and dare I
say, country & western....GEMS are there to be
discovered....

The best MUSIC is TIMELESS....

hehe....I've got all philsopical today...pls excuse me, I'm
a walking mechano mess of chemistry at the moment...


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 05:52 [#00939009]
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Purlieu: that's the reason i started this topic, but my
question is still: are we not overseeing some area's still
to be found/ discovered? for example: technologie can bring
us to some new area's if it's still in his pre-development,
what it is comparing it with the development of trains,
aeroplanes, etc



 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 05:59 [#00939012]
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Maybe there are other areas. I can't imagine any big leaps
left, but, of course, if someone could imagine what's to be
done, they would have done it by now! I know if I suddenly
discovered a new area of music, I'd keep it to myself until
I'd released a record. ;)


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-11-07 06:02 [#00939015]
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"are we not overseeing some area's still to be found/
discovered?
"

If that question were to be anwsered the discovery would
have been made :-p
Obviously there are still things out there that have never
been done before. But no-one knows what they are yet. You'll
just have to wait and see.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 06:18 [#00939027]
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Some famous(ish) Walter Pater coined the phrase that "All
art aspires to the condition of music."....

With all these recent technologic & chemical advances, I
think we'll see less of a divide between music & the other
arts as technology & artists progress...

we've so many senses (touch, smell, vision etc.), I think
we'll see other art forms take on the similar immediate
effect of music...(the one art-form everyone
understands..)...

As always, these things happen in the underground to start
with; but by defination, the Avant Garde drives culture to
new extremes....



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-07 06:21 [#00939030]
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I agree, even if technological advances mean that we may
exhaust the sound palette (in the ranges that the human ear
can hear at least...) in our life times, there is still a
vast amount of stuff to be done with different structures,
time sigs etc. Even if we only kept the existing
genres/stlyes, just merging three or more of these offer
near limitless possibilites: imagine 70s soul/funk drums
with trance synths and Country and Western vocals...


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 06:22 [#00939031]
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Oke there are still some area's never been done before, and
indeed there are not yet DISCovered, otherwise we would have
heard about it. But what i'm trying to do is to create a
new, yet to be born, area, and the ideas of people replying
to this topic about this new area maybe can give us new
insights...so spread the word..:)

Don't go wait and see, try to find those area's ;)


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 07:19 [#00939067]
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I think we all have these nu-forms in our minds, but
tranferring our internal worlds to external phorms is the
key to art...

Ceri:...I'm always kinda dubious about fusions of genres
(which themselves are artifical contructs)...very difficult
to pull off without it seeming...

I suspect as our culture changes, we'll see that
expressed...I mean that whole E thing was really an anedote
to the isolation of our post-modern life; Community in a
pill, however fake (if there is such a thing as fake), tells
us so much about these times....

LSD had such a profound effect on our world; even without
experiencing it, it's been absorbed into the mainstream....

fuck...it's so diffficult to consider things that haven't
been done...I recall the first time I heard Acid Trax by
Phuture & how that opened up whole new vistas of
experience....

I also wonder if we're too attached to melody and
keys...there are a infinite frequencies, micro-tones &
rhytms that our conditioning make un-easy listening...

I've been kinda inspired by Ketamine recently...(altho I'm
certainly not recommending it or advocating it's use)...but
sometimes we have to move outside ourselves to find the nu &
bring those experiences into the wider world...

I so must stop speaking of Chemistry...


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 08:30 [#00939109]
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well if you want to speak about your chemistry; speak! maybe
it does lead us to that yet to be found area's.

I don't know Acid trax by phuture&how, but only reading the
bands name says enough about the surch for new area's, want
to listen to it, before i can say if théy have really found
a new area.

"tranferring our internal worlds to external phorms is the
key to art..."
I want all internal worlds reading this topic to rock solid
by making it external.
put our minds together. It's time for a revolution.



 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 08:38 [#00939119]
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Acid Trax was the first ACID track....such a classic...get
thysellf to Soulseek...

Weirdly enough, they played it on Radio 1 last saturday
night...and I started singing We Are Back by LFO along with
it (it works so well), and sure enough the DJ mixed it in 5
mins later...

(I don't like talking too much about chemistry...I'm a
fuckup & I wouldn't want to be seen to advocate going down
some of the roads I've travelled...)...


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 08:55 [#00939137]
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Oke, got to get a copy of Acid tracks, probably a hell off a
surch. But does this lead to a revolution again? I think
not, it's done before, what i'm trying to say is we need a
revolution Right now, otherwise we've to tell our great
(grant)children we were a couple of losers that didn't know
how to handle with the millenium, we've got to hurry!


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-11-07 08:56 [#00939138]
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i just... i don't know/get/hurr it.


 

offline wizards teeth from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 09:05 [#00939153]
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I am contemplating the following new methods:

1. Appearing on top of the pops with a back group of talking
birds, a dog on a treadmill and a hamster in a wheel, which
is attached to a system, which makes sound effects.

2. Appearing on stage in a cupboard with a conveyor system
randomly sending gifts out into the audience. Little cakes
for example.

3. Having a kareoki night in which the singer stands in a
washing machine turned on its side, revolving the singer for
the duration of the song, the singers will breathe in helium
when singing.

Teeth


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 09:12 [#00939160]
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that's a start, hahahaha ;)


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 09:56 [#00939218]
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anyone else got some good ideas?


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-07 10:03 [#00939228]
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just wait and see (or in this case, hear).


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 10:58 [#00939309]
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crazone...Acid Trax is from like 1986 or something...just an
example how the new comes from the oddest places...

The 303 wasn't never designed for Acid...and it was only
Pierre fucking with one & taking it beyond it's standard use
(a replacement for a real bass player) that created these
last 20 yrs of electronic music....

E me, I sort you out a copy....


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 11:02 [#00939322]
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You know I've been fucking lucky in being into this sort of
shit since the early days...and I've seen new phorms come
all the time...

You cannot imagine how exciting Jungle was...or what
didgerdoo mean't the first time around...

Revolutions are rare...Evolution is a better word I
think....



 

offline nacmat on 2003-11-08 03:20 [#00940711]
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I analized that entire text in your post in this website:

http://homokaasu.org/gematriculator/

and the result of your text is:

The text you sent is
68% evil, 32% good



 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-08 05:05 [#00940777]
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Actually I've seen al lot 2, acid was one off the greatest
revolutions! Starting indeed a long historie of great
electronic music; house, gabber, techno, jungle, ambient,
drum&Bass,drill&..etc, But my question is does anybody know
where we are going right now? Has anybody got some ideas
about Muzik and it's yet to be found area's? If we only
could look into the future then we would probably know, but
fantasies/ ideas about the future can lead us maybe a little
bit closer..It's getting closer....It's getting closer....


 


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