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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 03:02 [#00938862]
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I think it's time for a new area in electronic music, please give me your reply to this if you think we've done it all or any suggestions what area's we forgot so far.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-11-07 03:04 [#00938863]
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i think we have about 10-20 years before weve done everything possible, and after that all music will try to be catchy or emotional, no experimental music will be left....
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 03:04 [#00938864]
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Ethiopia
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 03:12 [#00938866]
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experimental music will always exists, cause it's about exploring new boundries, i guess. Ethiopia maybe?
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nacmat
on 2003-11-07 03:56 [#00938901]
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its time idm goes to expriment with music made out of voices only
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-07 03:59 [#00938904]
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was it mira calix that did album out of insect sounds...it didnt sound anything like insects
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 04:37 [#00938948]
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Mira is discovering as many others, but what are the new area's we are not hearing, or seeing yet? "To be or not to be, that's the question."
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-07 04:46 [#00938956]
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Ethiopion-Break-Noizecore is where it's at.
Tolstoyed, yep, it was her... I tend to agree it sounded nothing like insects for the most part either.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-11-07 04:56 [#00938974]
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i didnt know insects even made noises, i thought they were too small. Ive seen a few documentarys showing that wildlife shows fake the sounds of insects.
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 05:24 [#00938993]
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There's so much vast experimentalism been done over the last few decades that these days anything new is often just an expansion on a current genre. I think most of the big leaps have been done.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 05:38 [#00939002]
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You lot heard of any of this Grimey Garage stuff...or 8 Bar...or Eski-Beat...people like Wiley...
Very underground at moment..(altho Dizzee Rascal has broken thru; not strictly grime but from same roots...)...
Check out some of the London pirates if you wanna hear some...most stream on the net as well nowadays...
And don't imagine for one moment that music will ever run out...as long as there are artists with soul, treats are in store...
"Where there's trust there be treats, when we fuck we hear beats..."...fuck I love Tricky...
PLUS...there are 100s of years of music out there...I've even been listening to some choir music recently and dare I say, country & western....GEMS are there to be discovered....
The best MUSIC is TIMELESS....
hehe....I've got all philsopical today...pls excuse me, I'm a walking mechano mess of chemistry at the moment...
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 05:52 [#00939009]
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Purlieu: that's the reason i started this topic, but my question is still: are we not overseeing some area's still to be found/ discovered? for example: technologie can bring us to some new area's if it's still in his pre-development, what it is comparing it with the development of trains, aeroplanes, etc
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 05:59 [#00939012]
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Maybe there are other areas. I can't imagine any big leaps left, but, of course, if someone could imagine what's to be done, they would have done it by now! I know if I suddenly discovered a new area of music, I'd keep it to myself until I'd released a record. ;)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-11-07 06:02 [#00939015]
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"are we not overseeing some area's still to be found/ discovered?"
If that question were to be anwsered the discovery would have been made :-p
Obviously there are still things out there that have never been done before. But no-one knows what they are yet. You'll just have to wait and see.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 06:18 [#00939027]
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Some famous(ish) Walter Pater coined the phrase that "All art aspires to the condition of music."....
With all these recent technologic & chemical advances, I think we'll see less of a divide between music & the other arts as technology & artists progress...
we've so many senses (touch, smell, vision etc.), I think we'll see other art forms take on the similar immediate effect of music...(the one art-form everyone understands..)...
As always, these things happen in the underground to start with; but by defination, the Avant Garde drives culture to new extremes....
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-11-07 06:21 [#00939030]
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I agree, even if technological advances mean that we may exhaust the sound palette (in the ranges that the human ear can hear at least...) in our life times, there is still a vast amount of stuff to be done with different structures, time sigs etc. Even if we only kept the existing genres/stlyes, just merging three or more of these offer near limitless possibilites: imagine 70s soul/funk drums with trance synths and Country and Western vocals...
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 06:22 [#00939031]
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Oke there are still some area's never been done before, and indeed there are not yet DISCovered, otherwise we would have heard about it. But what i'm trying to do is to create a new, yet to be born, area, and the ideas of people replying to this topic about this new area maybe can give us new insights...so spread the word..:)
Don't go wait and see, try to find those area's ;)
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 07:19 [#00939067]
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I think we all have these nu-forms in our minds, but tranferring our internal worlds to external phorms is the key to art...
Ceri:...I'm always kinda dubious about fusions of genres (which themselves are artifical contructs)...very difficult to pull off without it seeming...
I suspect as our culture changes, we'll see that expressed...I mean that whole E thing was really an anedote to the isolation of our post-modern life; Community in a pill, however fake (if there is such a thing as fake), tells us so much about these times....
LSD had such a profound effect on our world; even without experiencing it, it's been absorbed into the mainstream....
fuck...it's so diffficult to consider things that haven't been done...I recall the first time I heard Acid Trax by Phuture & how that opened up whole new vistas of experience....
I also wonder if we're too attached to melody and keys...there are a infinite frequencies, micro-tones & rhytms that our conditioning make un-easy listening...
I've been kinda inspired by Ketamine recently...(altho I'm certainly not recommending it or advocating it's use)...but sometimes we have to move outside ourselves to find the nu & bring those experiences into the wider world...
I so must stop speaking of Chemistry...
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 08:30 [#00939109]
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well if you want to speak about your chemistry; speak! maybe it does lead us to that yet to be found area's.
I don't know Acid trax by phuture&how, but only reading the bands name says enough about the surch for new area's, want to listen to it, before i can say if théy have really found a new area.
"tranferring our internal worlds to external phorms is the key to art..." I want all internal worlds reading this topic to rock solid by making it external.
put our minds together. It's time for a revolution.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 08:38 [#00939119]
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Acid Trax was the first ACID track....such a classic...get thysellf to Soulseek...
Weirdly enough, they played it on Radio 1 last saturday night...and I started singing We Are Back by LFO along with it (it works so well), and sure enough the DJ mixed it in 5 mins later...
(I don't like talking too much about chemistry...I'm a fuckup & I wouldn't want to be seen to advocate going down some of the roads I've travelled...)...
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 08:55 [#00939137]
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Oke, got to get a copy of Acid tracks, probably a hell off a surch. But does this lead to a revolution again? I think not, it's done before, what i'm trying to say is we need a revolution Right now, otherwise we've to tell our great (grant)children we were a couple of losers that didn't know how to handle with the millenium, we've got to hurry!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-11-07 08:56 [#00939138]
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i just... i don't know/get/hurr it.
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wizards teeth
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 09:05 [#00939153]
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I am contemplating the following new methods:
1. Appearing on top of the pops with a back group of talking birds, a dog on a treadmill and a hamster in a wheel, which is attached to a system, which makes sound effects.
2. Appearing on stage in a cupboard with a conveyor system randomly sending gifts out into the audience. Little cakes for example.
3. Having a kareoki night in which the singer stands in a washing machine turned on its side, revolving the singer for the duration of the song, the singers will breathe in helium when singing.
Teeth
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 09:12 [#00939160]
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that's a start, hahahaha ;)
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-07 09:56 [#00939218]
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anyone else got some good ideas?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-07 10:03 [#00939228]
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just wait and see (or in this case, hear).
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 10:58 [#00939309]
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crazone...Acid Trax is from like 1986 or something...just an example how the new comes from the oddest places...
The 303 wasn't never designed for Acid...and it was only Pierre fucking with one & taking it beyond it's standard use (a replacement for a real bass player) that created these last 20 yrs of electronic music....
E me, I sort you out a copy....
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-07 11:02 [#00939322]
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You know I've been fucking lucky in being into this sort of shit since the early days...and I've seen new phorms come all the time...
You cannot imagine how exciting Jungle was...or what didgerdoo mean't the first time around...
Revolutions are rare...Evolution is a better word I think....
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nacmat
on 2003-11-08 03:20 [#00940711]
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I analized that entire text in your post in this website:
http://homokaasu.org/gematriculator/
and the result of your text is:
The text you sent is 68% evil, 32% good
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2003-11-08 05:05 [#00940777]
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Actually I've seen al lot 2, acid was one off the greatest revolutions! Starting indeed a long historie of great electronic music; house, gabber, techno, jungle, ambient, drum&Bass,drill&..etc, But my question is does anybody know where we are going right now? Has anybody got some ideas about Muzik and it's yet to be found area's? If we only could look into the future then we would probably know, but fantasies/ ideas about the future can lead us maybe a little bit closer..It's getting closer....It's getting closer....
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