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billcosbydance
on 2003-11-01 06:26 [#00928381]
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led zeppelin fucking crush arse
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-11-01 06:35 [#00928386]
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they're pathetic. i'll never forgive them for ripping off puff daddy
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-11-01 06:43 [#00928395]
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:D
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-01 06:53 [#00928408]
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'what is and what should never be'
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-11-01 06:56 [#00928411]
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is that Gaudi's Sagrada Familia in your avatar?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-11-01 06:57 [#00928413]
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Me from year 9 - "OMG YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Been a while since I played any Zeppelin!
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-11-01 07:09 [#00928444]
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Yeah, and dont forget deep purple too! they both rock!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-11-01 07:10 [#00928447]
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not to my taste but a rrespected frriend likes them.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-11-01 07:34 [#00928493]
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yeah they did..but you got a bit of a wrong place wrong time thing going on here...about 30 years late and on an electronic music board :B
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-01 08:17 [#00928533]
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*cough*
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-11-01 08:18 [#00928536]
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wow, nice cough!!! B-)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-11-01 08:34 [#00928547]
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*cough cough*
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-11-01 09:13 [#00928587]
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yes it is
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-11-01 09:22 [#00928590]
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heheh
yeah - i love zeppelin - amazing band.
i was raised on zeppelin and deep purple, and hendrix, and joplin, and sabbath, and the who, and a shitload of other great music too.
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-11-01 09:55 [#00928612]
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"there are two paths you can go by but in the end theres still time to change the road youre on"
muahahhaa gg subliminal satan messages, the only one thats never been truly disproved :)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-01 09:57 [#00928613]
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yes, Led Zepplin rules... and about what flea said, it doesn't matter when you discover and band or group, who cares? And who cares if it's on an electronic music board... it's about time we have some talk about rock music from someone other then Ophecks! :)
It just shows how kick ass Led Zep were, that their music is still enjoyed today!
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2003-11-01 10:37 [#00928668]
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They're good, but they're also the most overrated rock band of all time
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-01 11:36 [#00928743]
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Exactly. They're a decent band, but are given WAY too much credit... for ripping off every artist under the sun. And Robert Plant is one of the worst frontmen of all time.
John Bonham is legendary though, a lot of the gritty blues rock on their first couple of albums is balls-to-the-wall badass.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-11-01 11:38 [#00928748]
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they had some good tunes.
Kashmir is definitely my all-time favorite from Led.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-01 23:41 [#00929630]
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auguably Metallica is given way too much credit. Led has set the standards.
Could you please give an example of how they rip off every artist under the sun? For discussion purposes?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-02 00:59 [#00929655]
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I wrote this on Wordpad, I hope it doesn't look fucked when I paste it. I wasn't going to risk losing a rant of THIS size to a browser crash or something! ;-)
Maybe ''ripoff'' is a bit harsh, because they were pretty diverse stylistically, but they were pioneers of nothing, yet get tons of praise heaped on them for being innovative. They did some shady things, artistically.
They lifted a lot of music from old blues artists. Lines, riffs, lyrics, and never properly credited them. Whole Lotta Love was stolen from Willie Dixon and they were even sued for it, and paid him off. How Many More Times lifts lyrics from a handful of bluesmen, and a riff from a Yardbirds song that Jimmy didn't write. Black Mountainside is some sort of old traditional tune. Rock and Roll rips off the beat and riff from a Little Richard tune. Tons of songs were lifted from Jimmy's Yardbirds days, and the PRE-Page Yardbirds days. Keith Relf, Jeff Beck, all these guys wrote a lot of the melodies and parts that would eventually become Zeppelin songs, but they got no credit Jeff Beck probably came up with a lot of the lead licks. Stairway to Heaven's acoustic intro is completely ripped from some lame Spirit track, and the chord progression from an obscure band Zep toured with early on. Bring it on Home is another old blues track that they recorded. Communication Breakdown is a direct lift of some Eddie Cochran song. Even Ritchie Valens' label sued them for copying Boogie with Stu! There's also a ''new'' song on the BBC Sessions that... isn't new at all, if you catch my drift. And I can't remember if their version of Robert Johnson's Travelling Riverside Blues is properly credited, but probably not.
Even the best line in their catalogue is stolen from an old bluesman... ''Squeeze my lemon till the juice runs down my leg''. Howlin' Wolf sued them for The Lemon Song, and God knows how many other Howlin' Wolf songs they ''borrowed'' riffs from, he was their favorite artist... it showed. Anyway, there's more thi
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-02 01:01 [#00929656]
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Anyway, there's more thievery than I can list, I'm forgetting tons. I know there's a couple of tracks on Presence that are verrrrry questionable.
Now, it's one thing to cover an artist, or pay tribute to an influence via a lifted line... heck, early Beatles albums were 30% covers. But the problem with Zep is, NOBODY ever got any credit, except for Page/Plant, for these riffs and lyrics.. and there were far too many lifted lines. For a band that relied on riffs so much, they lifted too many of those, too. They got sewed multiple times and settled it out of court every time to save face.
To their credit, at least they didn't claim When the Levee Breaks or Babe I'm Gonna Leave You was theirs.
Don't get me wrong, I like Zep, but they were just fuckin' INFAMOUS for the swiping of intellectual property and don't belong in the company of The Beatles, Stones and The Who... or even the Kinks. And they weren't the first metal band, like a lot of people claim, and they were definitely not the ''fathers of heavy music''. Or electric blues. Hell, even Vanilla Fudge, Blue Cheer and Iron Butterfly beat them to the punch!
They were given WAY too much credit.
Lastly, Jimmy Page and that guitar bow gimmick... he was ripping off Nigel Tufnel, man!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-11-02 01:13 [#00929659]
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Oh God. ''Sewed''= SUED.
Anyway, after all that, I still think Led Zep 1 is one of the best hard rock albums ever, even though half the songs on them were basically uncredited covers. Scorching guitar tone and mean drums. They jumped the shark later on, but those first couple of albums are gritty and badass.
No matter what though, Robert Plant was a farce, hanging out with three fantastic musicians.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-11-02 01:23 [#00929662]
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this one goes upto eleven
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tragedy
from Gloucester (United States) on 2003-11-02 02:01 [#00929670]
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metallica= reallly baddddd, zepplin= realllly good, i was driving around with my friend jason th other night at like 4am, blearing zozo, it was so fun.
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2003-11-02 02:05 [#00929671]
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i have to agree with Smyrma and Ophecks.
i used to listen to them long ago when i was into old hard-rock bands... i'd say their style was rather emotional, which ruined their music. Black Sabbath and Deep Purple were way more powerful in this respect...
also, Jimmy Page is one of the most overrated guitarists in the world, imo.
'When the Levee Breaks' is a great song though, one of my all-time favorites... John Bonham was a really good drummer, but this is probably due to that delicious drum sound ;)
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2003-11-02 02:19 [#00929680]
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My dad was in a band in the 60's. Their song reached top twenty in the Europe. Robert Plant is a big fan of my dads songs. Apparently Mr. Plant is a big record collector. Hard to fucking believe. Last month I found out the Beatles did a cover of my dads b-side track(the one he wrote) on their US tour during the sixties. Weird. I know. Im not naming them cause I don't care if you beleive me. Hey, those oldy one hit wonders had to grow old and have kids, too.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2003-11-02 02:23 [#00929687]
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Oh, I think I like their softer toons to their harder ones. Like california, That's the way, Tangerine. Street corner girl is good. There lesser known songs. All the songs were Robert isn't screaming, but singing.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-11-02 03:24 [#00929728]
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You can name them, I believe you.
Immigrant song and Stairway are my faves (the ones I've heard most and actually remember how they go).
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-11-02 04:13 [#00929773]
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Led Zeppelin Fans= Fans Of Sloppy Ass Drunk Drummer And Guitarist
and fucking queer ass singer who could never make a woman happy?
You ever listen to Zepp? All their songs are about hating women and dorky lord of the rings type shit...
And I'm sure you remember Plant's video for "Tall Cool One" where he is sucking down hot dogs like there aint tomorrow, rolling his eyes and raising his eyebrows as he shoves them in his mouth...
Led Zep fans are all a bunch of queer bait pussy ass motherfuckers.
Too bad most of them are Viet Nam Vets...
"Ooooh yeah, oooooh yeah! Ooooh yeah, oooooh yeah! Squeeze my lemon and watch the juice run down my leg!! Ooooh yeah, ooooh yeah!! Heeeeyyyyy hey! Uhh! Uhh! Uhh!! Oooh yeah, oooooooh yeah!!!"
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-11-02 05:17 [#00929810]
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I totally disagree with all criticisms made. Zeppelin made great rock, blues, folk, ethnic and even reggae music in there time, as well as fusing funk. They are by far one of the greatest bands of all time, and deserve the accolades.
THEY ARE NOT OVERRATED!
Tell me if there is any other popular band of modern times that contained musicians as accomplished and virtuosic at their instruments as Led Zeppelin.
Jimmy Page = Amazing guitarist
Robert Plant = Great Vocalist
John Paul Jones = Amazing bass player, keyboard player, whatever he feels like
John Bonham = Best rock drummer ever.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-11-02 05:19 [#00929811]
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Either you are being extremely sarcastic, or you are a fuckin moron.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-11-02 06:44 [#00929904]
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Common element of everyone I ever knew who liked Led Zeppelin. They were the only one who seemed not to know that they were a worthless piece of social garbage - unintelligent, humorless, and with nothing to offer to anyone or anything.
They thought that their opinions made them important.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-11-02 10:22 [#00930263]
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fuck off you wee sac of jizz, haha
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-11-02 10:25 [#00930266]
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i can do an awesome impression of robert plant... its funny.
it's obviously WAY over the top falsetto and LOUD!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2003-11-02 10:44 [#00930323]
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I don't really get too much into that kind of music.. Stairway to heaven is great but for the most part that kind of music just doesnt blow my skirt up. I think the music you were raised on has a more profound impact on what you consider great music than most people realize. Take corticalstim for ex (trust me I'm not pickin on you dude), I don't care for joplin or black sabbath at all, but then again I didn't grow up listening to them.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-11-02 10:46 [#00930330]
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Zeppelin fuckin rule. Now close this topic.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-11-02 11:34 [#00930405]
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I don't like blues at all... and even hard rock I don't enjoy that much... but for some reason, Led Zepplins bluesy rock I really like... I think Robert Plant has a kick ass rock voice... Jimmy Page is a kick ass guitarist, no doubt, but he's far from my favorite!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-11-02 13:44 [#00930515]
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yes!
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