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what programs/windows are you running right now? me: xltronic.com Spellcheck.net [taskbar (besides the standards):] Norton Ghost 2003 NVIDIA Media Center Birtual DAEMON Manager Outlook Express Inbox Smart Popup Killer Miranda Winamp Thrustmapper Norton Antivirus Soundblaster Live! |
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Opera - xlt.com mIRC WinAmp NAV 2003 Pro Ed |
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explorer, aol, quark, instant messanger, finder, stickies |
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Exchange, Pro Printer, Mapinfo, Arcview, Explorer, PSP |
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Opera web browser (xltronic, fanhome.com, hotmail.com, hockeydb.com) Winamp (Echo and the Bunnymen- Villier's Terrace) Noads pop-up killer |
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I like Opera, but it crashes alot - similar experiences, Ophecks? |
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Opera is great and all, but if you are a webdesigner and want to see your webpage as it ACTUALLY looks, you shouldn't use Opera |
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Well, my computer is a piece of unstable crap, so yeah, it tends to crash a couple times a day. But the great thing is, when you re-open it, it automatically loads everything you were viewing before. But my Internet Explorer crashes even more. So Opera is better in every way for me. |
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aight :) Apart from the fact that it crashes occasionally, it's a killer application, and the M2 makes it even better |
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that is so NOT true - but then again, if you're unable to design webpages that work equally well with the most used browsers (NS, IE & Opera), then you're no fucking good :) |
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my site...doesn't do the flashy dhtml fadi-in in Opera. Dhtml is nothing new, so why couldn't the put this feature in there too. Then the buttons looks strange. Then there is no colored scrollbar that isn't colored at all. And last but not least, the whole 'box' should be in the middle of the site, NOT in the top. And I fucking hate the shitty 'tabs' in the browser...why can't they make it act like IE, but be stable like Opera |
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mIRC sucks |
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Lotus Notes R5 Windows explorer Winamp IE 6.0 Microsoft Front Page CorelDRAW 9.0 Photoshop 6.0 all of it work related cept IE and winamp. So not all of it work related! :) |
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well, Opera supports web standards outlined by the world wide web consortium. No other brower does this to the same extent as Opera, so basically, when a site is displayed properly in for example Internet Explorer, you can bet your ass that the html code is not w3c compliant, and therefore it will look shitty in a w3c compliant browser The colored scrollbars is css, and as far as I know, it is not valid css And, dhtml is nasty shit, stay away from it. Regarding the box in the middle of the site, I see your problem, and I guess you've set a heigt attribute for you table, which, also, is not w3c standard. |
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but hey, you probably know more than me about this, since you're a webdesigner.. :) |
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w3c my ASS!!!!!! fuck if the web were up to those guys we were still in two-color Times New Roman mode... shit...god dammit...they finally make a good browser, and then they take all the fun outta pagemaking |
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I have no problems making my pages work in the three biggest - but your w3 comment is partially true, but then again, if shitty whore browsers such as IE could focus LESS on non-standard html, and follow a generalized standard instead, it'd make webdesign a hell of alot easier. but really, there's no problem designing a site that functions equally good in most browsers, you just need to tweak the html code a bit |
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but I love colored scrollbars sooo much :.( and *sniff* what about scripts |
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im quite sure the w3c is making more css standards "standard". hell, i design all my pages in css only, no tables, and very little html. |
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not many |
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slsk photoshop homesite smart ftp explorer trillian outlook ie (xltronic;localhost) phpdev_2K_XP_NT winamp too much really/ |
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yeah, I've heard about that.. how do you design solely on css? |
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replace dhtml with server-side language such as php or maybe even flash.. |
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I used xml, xsl and php to do all my shit now |
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I use xhtml, css and php.. don't know shit about xml, xsl |
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what a fantastically uninteresting thread |
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i don't like xml & xsl; css, xhtml & php works the best for me too. |
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but for fucks sake...this is a function that no other script will do...maybe it's not even dhtml..maybe more like something else...but try opening the site in IE, and you'll see the difference |
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DHTML is in fact a form of advanced java script, is it not? at least there's a striking resemblance between the two. The only difference between your site in Opera vs IE, is that the table is centered, the dhtml seems to work and the scrollbars are fine - but, Netscape displays the page exactly the same way that Opera does, so the conclusion has to be that IE is running based on it's own standards, which is partially true. They are responsible for inventing a lot of the non standard html shit that is only compliant with their browser. Microsoft's way to gain more marked shares. |
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Netscape, Mozilla and Opera is for me the same |
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starcraft internet explorer aim |
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i don't like 'now listening to' 'now thinking' 'prrogrrams rright now' thrreads. i get the urrge to post in them when i firrst see them then i think wait... no one gives a fuck. i head in thinking 'i know, i'll be funny' but it's alrready been done and they just end up being a list of shite that no one carres about. |
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Oh my STAR CRAFT. Star Craft is the shit !!!! |
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I feel that you have been sharing a somewhat negative aspect of your thinking lately |
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Winamp, Eudora, Soulseek, MSIE x3, AIM, ZoneAlarm, Norton AntiVirus.. I think that's it. Pretty boring. |
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okey, well then you might as well just stick to making websites exclusively for people who use Internet Explorer, which is basically what you're doing. I'm not saying it's wrong or anything, lot's of people do it, but I do think it's a bit non-professional. And here I am, not even educated on the subject, I've merely learned from myself. One thing I do know is this: webpages should be made cross-browser compatible to the maximum extent possible - of course, you can never cover them all, but to cover the basic three (O, IE, NS) is to me crucial. But hey, that's me in a nutshell :) |
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