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offline k_maty on 2003-10-07 09:41 [#00892864]
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Boards of Canada
Geogaddi
Warp Records
February 19, 2002


Sometimes I wonder if IDM music is written with future BMW
commercials or MTV programming segues in mind. Too often I
purchase an electronic album, and while giving it its first
listen all I can visualize is camera trickery focused on
some sports car on a windy road or a SUV tanking in some
nature scene. Sometimes, I can even here the advertisement
voiceover offering me low apr rates and cash back. Well,
Geogoddi does little to keep these visions at bay. In fact,
Boards of Canada has made the sample selection even less
difficult for the advertising firm, including eleven tracks
that clock in at no more than a minute-thirty. These firms
no longer have to spend their time arguing over what excerpt
to sample. The fragments are offered as exactly that -
fragments ready for sampling.

To continue with the analogy, the record rarely goes beyond
what can be used in a car commercial. If you were sitting on
your couch and decided to surf through the first ten seconds
of each track on the record, you would think that Geogoddi
is remarkable. Unfortunately, the setups on each track never
really deliver on their first ten-seconds worth of promise,
only long enough to establish the enigmatic optimism
characteristic of the IDM genre their debut helped define.

Geogoddi is the Scottish, knob-fiddling ambient electronic
duo, Boards of Canada's follow-up release to their debut
"instant classic," Music has the Right to Children. This
premiere release in many ways set the benchmark for IDM.
While not a revolutionary genre resister, the album
articulated an IDM sound that went beyond studio trickery
and presented a sound deep and full. The success of their
first album catapulted the group into the higher eschelon of
IDM tweekers like Autechre and Aphex Twin. Their highly
anticipated follow-up album, while not a disappointment in
terms of capably reproducing a sound very similar to their
first release, fails to satisfy a different set of
expectations.

Geo


 

offline k_maty on 2003-10-07 09:42 [#00892867]
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Geogoddi consists of eleven pairs of tracks where a short
one-minute prelude introduces a longer accompanying track
and a final minute-thirty track of Cagean silence. This
seemingly particular arrangement/formula made me think that
some larger conceptual grand schema might be at work. I
thought I should spend my time trying to figure out the
relationship between these pairs and how they fit together
in the record as a whole. But as I got into double-digit
tracks, the close listens became increasingly dull and the
project more evidently fruitless

What struck me the most about this album was its lack of
compositional evolution. Even when individual tracks were
studied closely as independent pieces, isolated from the
album as a whole, they did not go anywhere. Both the album
and the individual tracks fail to develop beyond the initial
premise outlined in the introductory stanzas.

Nevertheless, these introductions (despite functioning
mostly on a superficial sound production level) make for an
interesting listen. Sometimes, particularly "1969" and "Dawn
Chorus," even good enough to sustain my interest over the
course of the four-five minute regular track lengths. The
tone of the album is not much of a radical departure from
the haunting nostalgia of their last album, mostly reminds
me of the soundtracks to sped up films of budding flowers,
cloud formations or some other nature-friendly mystery
science. While good background music for driving widing
roads or entering deep-city subway stations, I'm not so sure
if it works as an album worthy of 65 minutes worth of your
attention.

Maxwell Yim
3.06.02



 

offline uzim on 2003-10-07 09:50 [#00892885]
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well... i partially agree.


 

offline uzim on 2003-10-07 09:51 [#00892889]
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(but i'm sure lots of people will come here and answer "no
way man!! geogaddi is a masterpiece!!!"... =))


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2003-10-07 09:54 [#00892897]
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:) Geogaddi is good, I should listen to it more


 

offline uzim on 2003-10-07 09:54 [#00892899]
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(but i'm sure lots of people will come here and answer "no
way man!! geogaddi is a masterpiece!!!"... =))


 

offline k_maty on 2003-10-07 09:54 [#00892901]
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i didnt write that by the way


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-07 09:55 [#00892904]
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ready lets go


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-10-07 10:02 [#00892920]
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you could ahve linked it


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-07 10:05 [#00892926]
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no you couldn't.


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-10-07 10:09 [#00892932]
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why not ?


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-07 10:10 [#00892936]
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I was just taking a piss


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-10-07 10:20 [#00892955]
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Geogaddi is soooooo not commercial music. sheesh.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 12:54 [#00893250]
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Maxwell Yim is an idiot


 

offline uzim on 2003-10-07 13:24 [#00893279]
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Boards Of Canada made a soundtrack for a phone company
commercial... (featuring leonardo di caprio too)

it was on the board but i didn't find it with the search
engine.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-10-07 13:27 [#00893283]
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They used Kid for Today in a BMW commercial, as well. But I
doubt they wrote that song with the explicit intention that
it was to be used in car commercials...


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2003-10-07 13:41 [#00893306]
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I doubt they actually make the tracks with adverts in mind,
but they could stop fucking licensing them. Whores.

btw, i LOVE geogaddi.


 

offline uzim on 2003-10-07 13:47 [#00893315]
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but what's wrong with having music you like in commercials?
it makes more money to the artist but is that a bad thing?
' _ '

(unless you associate the music with the product, if it's
the case it can be annoying...)


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-10-07 13:58 [#00893335]
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boc are the least evolving band ever

still, some tracks are good


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-10-07 14:01 [#00893340]
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some tracks suck
most tracks roawk.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-10-07 14:06 [#00893345]
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I disagree with you cheffe: Just because the you can tell
it's the same band is dosen't mean they haven't evolved.

I think geogaddi was a big step in what they were doing the
whole album is very carefully orchestrated and it really
shows how far they have come in writing and production
term.

I'm fed up with this must break ground bullshit.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2003-10-07 14:08 [#00893346]
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I think in virtually all cases advertising cheapens the
musical value of any song, especially if they're plugging
blatantly unethical products... i'm glad BoC are making
money for what they do (so well) but it leaves a sour taste
in my mouth. Same with aphex.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-10-07 14:09 [#00893348]
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i'm a human.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-10-07 14:10 [#00893349]
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But don't forget we are all into the music, and the music
does belong to them, it;s their right to do what they want
with it.


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-10-07 14:10 [#00893350]
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there is no need for breaking new ground every time.
but any boc release sounds the same to me.
that is, to me.
i'm not talking about making a giant leap but some evolution
over the years i'd say is necessary to call someone
creative.


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2003-10-07 14:11 [#00893351]
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I agree. I think that a lot of the sounds used ARE very
similar in MHTRTC and geogaddi, it's the undercurrents of
feeling that make them worlds apart. Geogaddi is a much
darker, more sinister album, and i think it needs a lot more
listens to take every bit in... i always think there's new
stuff there to discover, and i doubt i'll ever find it all
(not a bad thing.)


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-10-07 14:14 [#00893355]
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Glad someone agrees with me.


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-10-07 14:15 [#00893360]
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i liked geogaddi for quite some time and i agreed with what
you say now. but one day it got boring and most boc got
boring the same day and no undercurrent helped

i think they are overrated, apart from some decent tracks
like aquarius


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-10-07 14:16 [#00893363]
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most people here would agree with you i think


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-07 14:18 [#00893367]
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Sometimes I wonder if IDM music is written with future
BMW commercials or MTV programming segues in mind.


damn right. i don't think it's intentional at all (at least
in BoC's case) but i really do think this music lends itself
very easily to some flashy car ads and movie trailers. the
mainstream media co-opted this music years ago, and
logically so, what with all those convenient quick cuts
built into the music and that "modern technology sound"
and/or "beautiful/relaxing ambience".

To continue with the analogy, the record rarely goes
beyond what can be used in a car commercial. If you were
sitting on your couch and decided to surf through the first
ten seconds of each track on the record, you would think
that Geogoddi is remarkable. Unfortunately, the setups on
each track never really deliver on their first ten-seconds
worth of promise, only long enough to establish the
enigmatic optimism characteristic of the IDM genre their
debut helped define.


i generally agree with this. BoC have made some of the most
amazing bits of music but i never listen to their albums
because the tracks as whole entities are so stagnant and
plain. yes, it's weird to think of something so different,
brilliant, and pleasant sounding as "plain" but the way they
underdevelop these motifs can be described so succinctly.
they should take a lesson from their scottish brethren
mogwai's latest album and come up with something that really
lives up to their ability next time.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-10-07 14:19 [#00893368]
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Well i guess it's a matter of taste, but how much their
stuff have you heard because there is if you look alot of
variety in their early work.


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-10-07 14:23 [#00893372]
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true,
twoism somehat is an exception to what i said above.


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-07 14:32 [#00893378]
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they used the track 5-9-78 from A Few Old Tunes for a Nissan
commercial.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 14:35 [#00893381]
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you need to listen deeper. they are not stagnant and plain
at all; just subtle


 

offline k_maty on 2003-10-07 14:36 [#00893383]
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chris cunningham made that commercial


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-07 14:49 [#00893398]
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i've listened deeply for 5 years.


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-10-07 14:50 [#00893401]
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yeah, that's prolly the one


 

offline uviol from United States on 2003-10-07 14:53 [#00893407]
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Repetition truly is sort of a weakness of Boards of Canada
that they have a damn hard time getting around. Take
Twoism, for example.. good grief, great tracks but do you
think they could beat those melodies into the ground any
longer? I still disagree with most of the Geogaddi review..
I think it's a good album, despite some of its potentially
new age, car commercial tendencies. These aren't
intentional though.. it's a misreading of the sound that
just happens to overlap in this arena. It almost made me
sick to my stomach one day when I went to Borders and saw
Geogaddi as a featured item in a listening station, the very
places that house Yanni and Jason Mraz and Madonna. Ugh!!
Almost made me as sick as the time I saw EP7 shelved right
next to the Backstreet Boys. But that's another matter..


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-07 14:55 [#00893415]
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I went to Borders and saw
Geogaddi as a featured item in a listening station, the very
places that house Yanni and Jason Mraz and Madonna.


that would make me very happy. i'm ecstatic when i see or
hear about someone who would seem "unlikely" getting into
some of the music i love the most. i think the "beautiful
pastorals" of BoC would be great additions to the record
collection of any middle aged working woman who wants
something to unwind to after work or something to listen to
while doing the dishes.


 

offline uviol from United States on 2003-10-07 15:19 [#00893450]
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Really...
that's quite intriguing actually that we have honest, but
completely opposite reactions concerning the music we both
love.. I guess my fear is partially personal/selfish and
partially not..
First, it sorta is less special when everyone knows about
it. You don't feel as cool or underground. This is a very
superficial complaint.. but it goes deeper.
The flip side is that I hate to see music getting popular
for the wrong reasons. It's one thing for Madonna to get
popular because she has music that is pandering to the
masses and is made, in part, essentially to sell copies.
With Boards of Canada, I hate to be so condescending, but I
suspect people are overlooking the time, energy, message,
and feeling inherent in the music and latching onto the
knee-deep 'sound' of it, just as if they were flipping on
John Tesh. One time a couple years ago when my class was on
our class trip, one of my friends was like 'Hey Jonathan!
look at this!'. He handed me an in-flight magazine and
pointed to the 'Easy Listening' or 'Relaxed Grooves'
playlist for the flight, and 'In a Beautiful Place Out in
the Country' was listed there along with a host of other
typical easy listening bands. I don't know.. it just gets
to me when artists are misinterpreted like that.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-10-07 15:35 [#00893464]
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i applaud you for admitting selfish feelings.. we all feel
that way sometimes, i think, wanting to be the cool kids in
the know. but ultimately i'd much rather other people be let
in on something i think is really good.

also i have to say i don't think any of the really popular
"IDM" acts (ie: most of the top warp artists) set out to
make patently inaccessible music for an elite.. i think
they're really happy when people of all types embrace their
music and aren't too concerned that not every person is
getting all the finer details as long as SOME people are. i
think BoC can be easy listening if you want it to be (and
most people in the world would; we're a minority).


 

offline naaic from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-10-07 15:36 [#00893465]
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i'm at the point now where the only thing that matters to me
is whether i like the music or not. i could care less if boc
was played at the supermarket or during halftime at a high
school basketball game. boc is one of my favorite bands
regardless. the whole focus that music is only good if it's
"underground" seems rather silly to me.


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-07 15:36 [#00893466]
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Geogaddi I don't like. Music Has The Right To Children
really I don't like. Twoism I REALLY don't like.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-10-07 15:53 [#00893469]
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"Aquarius" was booming over the bar at the Bamboo Club in
Tempe, AZ when we arrived to eat there last weekend.

I think "Notorious" by Duran Duran played next. I kind of
wished they had played all of MHTRTC.


 


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