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theo himself
from +- on 2003-10-06 03:41 [#00891036]
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I recently bought a midi controller and it's already made the music-making portion of my life significantly easier.
why, though, do I feel like there is a brief (yet noticable) delay in between my pressing a key and its being played?
are there software packets of sounds you can use for midi things? eg drums etc?
how the fuck does one get started in cubase.. are there tutorials?
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-06 05:13 [#00891106]
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I suppose you're using some sort of softsynth, when this lagging happens. It's all about drivers and good sound cards. Soundcards have different latencies and some of it has to do with your computer's performance. Look for latency setting, try to get it as short as possible.
There's probably hundreds (maybe not) of books on Cubase, if you feel like buying. I downloaded the SX manual off of slsk, not that I have started using SX.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-06 05:16 [#00891110]
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Also, you will probably notice that trying to keep MIDI tracks in sync with AUDIO tracks is a pain in the ass, so don't mix.
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2003-10-06 05:26 [#00891127]
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I found cubase really frustrating at first, couldnt work it at all. But now i think the basic are a pice of piss. Mixing audio and midi is extremely effective as long as you match the tempo perfectly on the audio track. I remixed Super Mario bros them tune using midi and audio. nothing like Aphextwin though, check out a couple of my tracks www.mp3.com.au/rud
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-06 07:30 [#00891257]
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Cubase is an absolute fucker for latency unless you have specific ASIO soundcard drivers. If your soundcard is decent enough you can use the DirectX drivers which reduces the problem.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-10-06 07:53 [#00891289]
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wanna hook me with that cubase guide? ;)
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-07 03:35 [#00892490]
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It's 6078kB. No email of mine in the world will allow attachments that big.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-10-07 05:23 [#00892550]
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Midi is the evil seductive women you always wanted. It hurts so good.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-10-07 05:26 [#00892553]
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the only way round it in Cubase is to use the shitey built in soundcards Midi instruments to record the music live. Then, once recorded, assign the output to a VST Instrument and voila!, you`ll have a VST synth or whatnot playing in time.
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2003-10-07 06:07 [#00892584]
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midi what do u mean mc303 above
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-07 08:03 [#00892707]
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Sounds triggered by MIDI don't lag the way a softsynth can do. So if you need to record stuff live, aka by playing a keyboard, you can use this method and then replace the MIDI instrument sound with a softsynth. Right? :)
Hope it makes sense.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-07 09:09 [#00892798]
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That is what he meant...but lets say with pads I often time notes on the evolution...which you can't do using standard midi shit. It takes the fun away from making music.
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2003-10-07 09:17 [#00892818]
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theo...what sound card have you got? there are some asio drivers available for the sblive series. they should be able to get you better latency.
if youve a sblive i'll dig up the drivers for you.
actually, i already did. here they are.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-10-07 22:49 [#00893882]
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thank you.
I want to be able to do the following things:
- tap out a beat on my controller and later change the percussive sounds to my liking
- set up my windows recording mixer to record ONLY that which is coming through the midi controller .. so that I might be able to listen to an already recorded portion of a song and play over it and have the midi track be an exclusive track in the song
where do I fix the latency problems?
what exactly is a "pad"?
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-10-07 23:08 [#00893892]
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and my soundcard is, I believe, SoundMAX Digital Audio .. is there any hope for me?
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-08 02:17 [#00894002]
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A pad is usually some sort of long (sweeping) sound. It can be a combination of all kinds of sounds, synths, strings and usually some sort of fx.
I don't understand what you mean by that windows mixer thing or the exclusive part, but just remember that MIDI itself doesn't contain any audio. You're not recording audio signals with MIDI, just the midi info like note on, note off etc. This makes it very flexible in an editing situation.
For example when I program drums, I usually have atleast 3 sequencer tracks for the same kit. This way I can edit hihat sections without affecting snares and kicks. They can all be on the same MIDI-channel. You just have to remember that when adding control changes and so on. Any MIDI-messages will change all three tracks (modwheel, volume etc).
hope this sheds some light on things..
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-10-08 03:56 [#00894112]
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ok.. how can I listen to something play on my comp and play along w/ my midi .. and have ONLY the midi recorded?
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-10-08 04:15 [#00894139]
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nevermind ;)
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-08 04:23 [#00894157]
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In your sequencer, cubase I suppose :) , you select if you want to record a MIDI track or an AUDIO track.
When that track is recorded, it will play back as you record your next track. If you only want to record the MIDI information, make it a MIDI track.
Only the notes you play on your keyboard will be recorded, not the actual sound, so you can substitute the instrument used at the time, anytime.
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-10-08 04:24 [#00894159]
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Ah too late.. Maybe it will help someone else too.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-10-08 04:59 [#00894191]
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well where might I be able to handle the latency issues?
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