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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-09-23 11:58 [#00874946]
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Official website.
Genius or pretentious ?
The concept in itself seems utterly pretentious to me, but I think that some great films can still be made with these conditions.
What do you think ?
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-09-23 12:05 [#00874951]
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"The Celebration" (Festen) and "Mifune" are really good. Not necessarily because of the Dogme-"rules".
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viktor
from Uppsala (Sweden) on 2003-09-23 12:06 [#00874952]
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it could be cool sometimes, but most of it is so non-esthetical and boring... its like they've taken away all the great things you can do with cinema...
oh, and i just hate all these young brats that think they can make good films with their DV-cam...
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-09-23 12:09 [#00874955]
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true.
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-23 12:14 [#00874959]
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One thing I've learned, e.g. from my soundproject at school (which had restrictions; e.g. we weren't allowed to use any instruments or things that sounds like words) is that working under restrictions makes you understand more what you are actually doing, forces you to do something differently, solve it in a different way.
Also they had some good points with the manifesto, but it was written for fun aswell...
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-09-23 12:23 [#00874968]
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They're really odd to me visually cos I'm not quite used to movies looking so, uh, real... but i like what i've seen. The idiots is one of my all time favourite films.
Does dancer in the dark count as a dogme95 film? It doesn't quite seem to fit the manifesto perfectly; lars von trier is credited, "superficial action" happens (i.e. the murder - although if any scene was less superficial i've never seen it)...yet it FEELS the same. Hell, it's another favourite.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-09-23 15:01 [#00875221]
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I don't know, working under restrictions is interesting, but reading their manifesto, I got the impression they took it far too seriously, presenting themselves as the saviors of cinema and all...
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big
from lsg on 2003-09-23 15:14 [#00875265]
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it sucks, only worked for a couple of films, was just a nice concept not a real program: they couldnt even keep themselves to it.
but what i hated most of it was the overload of attention it got (like this) because everything else is just so empty of ideas
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ScenarioDr
on 2003-09-24 04:29 [#00876000]
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Dancer in the Dark isnt one, it breaks the rules in a lot of places; the murder, the use of music, his use of cameras (i think he used something like 30 cameras for the musical bits!). I know what you mean though, it has the feel of a dogme film aswell, its a strange one, very good though.
Breaking the Waves is very good too, but that isnt strictly a dogme film either, thoguh it has the same feel to me. Because of the documentary style you feel as though you are watching something real, that you perhaps shouldnt be seeing.
If nothing else Lars Von Trier can get great perfomances from his cast.
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