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offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-09-18 10:57 [#00868764]
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I am one who usually practices lucid dreaming (being able
to dream, realize you're dreaming, and thus taking control
of your dream and doing some cool shit). It's a pretty good
experience.
Unfortunetely, lats night, I had my first real lucid
nightmare.

I went to bed at about 1am, and ended up waking up at aruond
230.

It was the longest lasting dream i've ever had in my entire
life.

I know it started in a hotel room with a bunch of my
buddies, and there was a big hockey game on (I'm not even
tht big of a hockey fan)

Anyways, it came down to the wire, and somehow the goalie
(it was his last game before he retired or whatever) and he
was a real famous player, blah blah, anyways, so he somehow
gets the puck and skates down the ice to score.

He wins the game for them, everyone's cheering. The people
int he stadium go wild, we in our hotel room go wild,
cheering screaming etc.

Then in his exhileration, the goalie who just scored the
winning goal and whose now retiring (it was his last game)
does a backwards flip on the ice and catches his neck
somehow and WHAM.

His fucking head is turned around on his body.

It's so fucking clear in my head, it was the scariest thing
i've ever seen.

Everyone was still cheering they didn't notice it, then
slowly everything started turning from cheering into
screams.

We went nuts in our hotel room, like WHOLLY FUCKING SHIT etc
etc. and I'm like "they are never going to show that again"
and sure enough they didn't.

So I was trying to get my friend to jump on kazaa to see if
the clip was up there yet (big game, sure many ppl were
taping it).

From there it spawned.

I lost a lot of details becaues when I woke up everything
was so clear I immediately tried to forget it all.

The dream lasted 'days'.

Finally to some point I was realizing I was dreaming and
tried to wake up.



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-09-18 10:57 [#00868766]
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Nothing.

I remember doing all sorts of driving around, being chased,
and the image of the backwards head that was fucking BURNED
(even now) in my head. It was so scary. I tried waking up,
nothing.

I tried spazzing out in my dream, just going crazy in my
mind to try and get myself to wake up. Nothing. Finally I
woke up.

Ok, did I really wake up or no? I was back continuing my
dream again. I tried biting my finger or pinching myself for
pain. I could almost feel it, I like had tricked my brain
into feeling a sharp sense. But I couldnt tell exactely what
it was.

This continued for ever. It was by far the longest dream
i've ever had. All these crazy things were happening
((again, lost a lot of details, )) and I kept tryign to
force myself to wake up.

Again I woke up, but It was just another day, and I was
still in my dream.

By this point I was so scared, I couldn't wake up from this
dream no matter how hard I tried.

Eventually I fucking woke up. It felt like I was 30ft deep
in a lake, and I was swimming up to the surface. Took me
forever to get there (and out of my dream into wake state)

I fucking sat up in my bed, basically in fucking tears. I
could't beleive it. The backwards head was BURNED in my
head. All the shit just raced through. It was about 1.5hours
after I had went to bed,

I was all fucking hot and sweaty and breathing heavy, I
couldn't catch my breath. I was so fuckign scared, I tell
you, i've never been that scared in my life. I can't even
type it out. I didn't go to bed for another 45minutes or
so.

I layed in my bed, so uncomfortable, so scared, and finally
fell back asleep again,

jeezous christ I wish I could tell you how scary it was.
nothing ilke that has ever happened, and it almost drove me
to tears.

wow.



 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-09-18 11:17 [#00868805]
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it's a stage in life,

soon (hopefully) you will grow out of it.

you will take the knowledge you have acquired about yourself

and others, and use it to better your understanding of the
world.



 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-09-18 16:21 [#00869302]
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heh thx for quoting me

gg DRUKQS


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-18 16:26 [#00869310]
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so, now you wont do lucid dreaming anymore?


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-09-18 16:29 [#00869314]
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i haven't had a dream in a couple of months.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-09-18 16:30 [#00869316]
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no
alls i can say
well i cant put it into words

my day has been pretty fucked up

i was pretty shakin up over it

ive never in the past couple years had any thing remotely
like that happen

i was fucking trapped

jeezous christ

some of you may understand, others may not, but ive NEVER,
EVER , EVER in all my times of lucid dreaming had anything
close ot that happening.

fuck ive never had a dream effect me so much like this in
the real world, ive been rpetty shakin up all day beleive it
or not,

sigh,
oh well

ive been 'trapped' in lucid dreams that i havnt been able to
wake from before, but nothing as terrifying as this, never
have had so much panic through my mind and body as last
night.

:(


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-18 16:32 [#00869318]
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i hate stuff in my mind i cant control, when i had a bad
trip from weed once, i was scared i might not get out of it
already. learn how to get out of it, you couldnt just have a
cold shower?
i dont like the idea of lucid dreaming anyway, still will
try someday


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-09-18 16:37 [#00869322]
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wel sometimes it just 'comes' to you,
takes lots of time, etc.

but to honestly be trapped in a dream is undescribable.

ive been 'trapped' before, but never in a nightmare like
this.

i replayed SCREECHING sounds from vsnares in my head
i sent like 100 different ideas/formulasthrough my head to
break off from the dream and back to reality

i thought about EVERYTHING i could think of, and just
spazzed out, trying to break free.

but no i kept waking up, still in the dream.

this happened so many times finally it felt like i was
swimming up from 30 or 50ft deep in a lake (took forever to
swim up (the feeling)) and finally woke up when i hit the
surface

i mean,

FUCK.



 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-18 16:43 [#00869327]
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yeah, but in normal dreams your trapped to, only difference
is your aware and should be able to wake up, 90 minutes is
pretty long yes, but still.. or not?


 

offline deepspace9mm from filth on 2003-09-18 16:47 [#00869329]
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And I always thought lucid dreaming would be cool... wow. I
thought if you could control the dream's "plot" then you'd
be safe-ish from anything like that. Dreams are weird, i
don't get nightmares that often but usually very distorted,
disquieting ones like badly reflected mirrors on my feelings
/ events n stuff. I love dreams but i never sleep properly,
i always wake up to write them all down. Ah well...

Seriously tho, bad luck man. Doesn't mean it'll happen again
like, but maybe give the lucidness a rest for a while. Are
ya stressed out in normal life? Cos maybe that's part of it.


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-18 16:52 [#00869332]
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i got suspicious reading about aphex having done everything
but not wanting to kill himself, id not be able not to do
that
my dreams are always subtly fucked up, if i dream anything,
i never fuck too!


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-18 17:00 [#00869338]
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i woke myself up today


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-09-18 17:13 [#00869348]
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i actually had a dream where i was trapped the other night.
scared the shit out of me but it sounds like nothing
compared to what you had.
all i remember of it was that i couldn't run, like i was
moving in slow motion, and this thing with black eyes was
chasing me over a hill and the sky was on fire. the thing
kept shifting, like a frame in a movie was missing or
something.
that dream didn't last that long, but for the short time it
did last it felt like an eternity because i couldn't move.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-09-18 17:15 [#00869350]
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supposedly your dreams affect everything in your day,
sometimes subconciously and i guess in your case,
conciously.


 

offline hyakusen from 8=============> on 2003-09-18 17:20 [#00869353]
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dont play with dreams - thay are beyond your control no
matter what you think.

every thing that you do in dream is noticed.

when you think that you in a control of a dream - it's not
true.

it's like playing with child - until you say no the child
thinks that he's playing with you , isn't it ?

by this nightmare you were warned and it's up to you what
wil you do now.
my advice - stay out.



 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-09-18 18:19 [#00869408]
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all peoples bodies go into a state of physical paralysis
during REM sleep.. you just happened to be semi-conscious
during that time


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-09-18 20:44 [#00869557]
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who better to quote?

here is another good quote:

"i have never been contained except i made the prison."

can't remember if you commented on the film "waking life."
your dream reminded me of it.


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2003-09-18 21:59 [#00869614]
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i have also practiced lucid dreaming as well...

but nothing to the extent of such a horific experience.

the need to fly or sink... the motion is what i enjoyed with
LD.

or wait, maybe that was LSD... j/k =b


 

offline kochlear from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-18 22:58 [#00869691]
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i had a dream pretty fucked up like that, but it wasn't
lucid. i was just sitting around my room chilling with
friends when a GIANT flat blade came out of my floor and
sliced my friend exactly in half, then flew up through the
ceiling, all in a quick, straight line.

then my friend SLOWLY peeled into his 2 halves with organs
spewing yellow fluid everywhere.

i partly felt depressed as shit that my friend was dead and
partly felt horror that there were more blades.

i woke up and jumped out of bed immediately. i started
smiling because i was so glad to be awake.

i also had a dream once where i was stabbed in the chest and
the eye, but then realizing i wasn't dead it became lucid
and i went around kicking ass in a grand theft auto point of
view.

@hyakusen - your post scares me. O.O


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-09-18 22:58 [#00869692]
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ive nevr taken lsd
only shrooms

but i am in so much stress, most people would spontaneously
combust

i do about 50-60hours a week of network engineering (too
many projects) and have 14credits @ a hard engin. school

i sleep like 4hours a night

i get fucked up like every night just to stay awake to do my
work

im fucking fliping out

imdrunk now

i have work 8am and its late nd i dunno what time it itss i
dunno how i even got hoem tonight ubt ok work 8am and no
schol tom cause i dont have sclases on friday

ejoy


 

offline kochlear from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-18 23:00 [#00869700]
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WAKR UPU ELUCIVE

YUO REA DERSMIBNG



 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-18 23:28 [#00869727]
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Jesus Christ! I've never had anything that bad. I'm sure
most people get a vivid image of something fucked up, but
rarely does it go to the extent of continuing for days on
end. Jesus fucking christ man.


 

offline OK on 2003-09-19 02:32 [#00869773]
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what a liar. lucid nightmares! bah!


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-09-19 02:50 [#00869779]
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my dreams usually involve me writing code, which is shitty
because i wake up and my written code is gone, but i wake up
sometimes with solutions to problems in coding that i
couldn't resolve for days, guess that sub-conscious level
lateral thinking is helful


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-09-19 02:56 [#00869788]
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I've had dreams that have spanned days. The one I remember
most was a dream where I killed one of my flat mates. It
was a Spanish girl and she was always complaining about me
playing my music too loud. I dreamt she was complaining one
night and I grabbed her face and rammed her head into the
wall and she died. Anyway then I woke up, remembered what
had happened the night before and ran out of my room, she
was dead on the staircase. So I ran out of the house and
just remember running, but I never got anywhere. I
eventually fell asleep in a doorway. Then I woke up in the
same doorway, feeling as though I had slept for hours and it
was another day. Went back to the house and she was still
lying there not moving...I felt totally trapped. Then I
woke up properly, ran out and she was alive and well in the
kitchen...I had only been asleep about 2 hours, but it took
me days to be able to shake the feeling.


 

offline occfactor from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-09-19 03:05 [#00869794]
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Dreams last for only a few minutes at most, real time, that
is. A person perceives the dream to last longer because
you're not in a conscious state, but actually everything
happens in the space of a few seconds. A dream cannot last
for hours. I saw this in a documentary about dreams. They
did scientific tests and shit.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-09-19 03:20 [#00869806]
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I know it's cool init...I mean if you can fit days into
minutes when people say you dream your life away you are
actually having about 1000 years more life than them.


 

offline celloncllone from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2003-09-19 04:18 [#00869852]
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for some reason 24 hours in a day still doesn't seem to be
enough to get everything done.....they also say that if an
astronaut was to go in outer space the further he travels
out the slower time affects him relative to here on earth.

he would return like 20 years later and the civilization as
he used to know it has been gone for maybe 1000's of
years........which makes the concept of alien life forms
interesting, what if in the 50's,60's or whenever it was the
ufo's that crashed with aliens in em were an experiment of
the states to see if they could continue civilization away
from earth, keep our dna alive....if the earth was to be hit
by a meteor or something...

maybe its all americas big secret test, continuing our
civilization, or advancing technologically at a faster pace
by watching the other race grow


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-19 04:23 [#00869858]
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that's from eXistenze, this post makes me think of that
anyway, with elusive thinking he wakes up. the last scene of
that flick was cool


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-09-19 04:27 [#00869862]
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I haven't seen that film yet. Is it worth watching?


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-19 04:28 [#00869863]
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yes, not aMazing, but cool


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-09-19 04:35 [#00869866]
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all my dreams have a weird paranoid feeling to them, and I
always feel like something big is about to happen, but it
never does


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-09-19 05:51 [#00869907]
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ill have to check that movie out


 

offline grinningcat from london (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-19 06:09 [#00869919]
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GUTTED

i was considering training to lucid dream once, but realsied
id probably go mad if i did the things the guides tell u
to...

i read one and it was like: "go to the mirror. look at
urself, now imagine u are inside ur dream, touch ur face,
and imagine u can barely feel it, imagine u are in ur dream
and can do what u want etc...do this everyday for 2 weeks,
then do blah blah blah...."
!

anyone who does all this shit regulary and lucid dreams is
gonna get fucked up experiences, as our friend describes


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-09-19 10:12 [#00870200]
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So if you WERE lucid then why didn't you understand that
there was nothing to be afraid of? Maybe the backwards head
was your mind making a physical error in proportioning this
mans appearence. Maybe if that was your initial
understanding the crowd would have never freaked out. I
think the crowd freaking out was your minds adaptation to
the mistake that occured.

But that's just me. I would have entered the TV (same as a
mirror) and asked his name and how he did that.

I think that you were lucky to have such a dream that lasted
so long. :)


 

offline kochlear from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-19 14:08 [#00870395]
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actually all i did to achieve lucidity is make note of the
dreams i remember when i wake up. then i think to myself
"okay, that had to have been a dream because (A) didn't make
sense, and (B) wasn't actually my house and (C) i don't
drive a truck etc. etc. etc." then more often i'll be in
dreams and just say out loud "wait...this isn't real. this
is totally absurd."


 

offline S M Pennyworth from East Timor on 2003-09-19 17:38 [#00870578]
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when i do LD, it usually starts the same way every time,
(i've found a way to easily enter this state), and when i'm
starting to see my hands in the dream and i make sure i have
total control of them, the background fades in, its a red
corridor, feels alot like a really nice hotel hallway, and
i'm really feeling that i'm inside my head. the sound also
fades in from being really muffled to really crisp. i
remember walking in a small dark concrete tunnel, and i
could actually feel every detail of the wall as i touched
it. lucid dreaming is really fun but (almost) like some of
you said, the human head is'nt filled with joy, and everyone
has corners in their head that noone would ever want to
visit.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-09-19 18:31 [#00870611]
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Scary!

I can only remember one occasion in which I was dreaming and
was aware of this fact, and had some degree of control.
Fortunetely it wasnt a nightmare. It was rather boring.
"Hey, I'm dreaming..hmm there's nothing to do here"

I'm glad I havent had an experience like that.


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-19 21:05 [#00870764]
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I have lucid dreams now & again, I had the same experience
as you elusive, wednesday morning i think it was, I got to
bed at around 7am (yes I do have adverse sleeping patterns)
I was extremely tired at this stage & had been noding of
while putting together a track at the pc just prior, I was
then awoken at around 9am by a wasp in the window (on the
other side of the curtain) which made me fairly edgy as I
have a phobia of the foul tempered little bastards so I had
the compelling urge to stay awake untill he had gone back
out the window but because I was so knackard I fell back to
sleep with the wasp still on my mind, I then became "aware"
in my sleep (maybe I cold hear it buzzing or something) &
began to panic & try to pull myself out of my sleep by using
my mind & also trying to move my limbs etc & this continued
on for alot longer than I would have liked........eventualy
I managed to pull myself out of it by using all my will
power, only to find the wasp was gone..........ahhhhh relief


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-19 21:10 [#00870767]
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yes you have... if you haven't, you'd be dead...


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-09-19 21:11 [#00870768]
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heh, no that's not right is it? Hmmm, I don't know anymore!!
:)


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-19 21:12 [#00870771]
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Inatt drömde jag att jag fick mitt ollon avbitet = tonight
I dreamed I got my ollon bitten off. = Tonight I dreamed
someone chewed off the top of my cock.


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-19 21:30 [#00870790]
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Waking dreams are the worst, it's very rare to have them but
this one time at band camp I had..........well, lets just
say I was beyond traumatised by the whole thing.....fucking
evil, evil things. I feel sorry for you elusive, you sound
like you were stuck in a lucid waking loop, just count
yourself lucky that you didn't go along for the ride the
first time you woke in your dream & that you were conscious
enough to be able to put it into perspective a little, as
you obviously knew you were in a dream because you were
trying to wake yourself up. I swear I almost had a heart
attack that night!!


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-19 21:33 [#00870795]
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LOL!!


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-20 02:24 [#00870925]
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i dont dream in my sleep very much and when i do its not
like dreaking its like watching myself think... but i do
dream/space out alot when im awake , like a whole load of
time can pass by and to me in was seconds of time and ive
just been standing there totally unaware of anything.Makes
my friends laugh...i do it alot in shops when my friends are
shopping nd im fucking bored out fo my head,i just kinda of
'go' as such and when they come back an hour later im still
there and they kind of , prod me, and away we go to the next
shop


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-09-20 03:10 [#00870950]
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wow.. that's messed up..


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-09-20 03:11 [#00870951]
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all of these stories that is..


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-09-20 10:54 [#00871156]
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virginpusher

oh oh oh im SOOO SORRY i jus couldnt fucking end it,.

pfft wtf

its not that easy to just do it.

you never have like complete 100% lucids all the time, elast
I dont

there is always a factor or 2 that I cant control and I dont
really care.

i WAS lucid because i KNEW i was dreaming

but then i kept waking up over and over
and i kept getting confused

so i didnt know ifi was dreaming or not anymore because i
had woke up so many times

so then i started frekaing out

because as a test (in case i was dreaming, which i was) i
tried waking myself up

no avail

so then i felt like it was real
and i started getting scared
real scared

because i couldnt wake myself up,

i wastrapped

so then slowly it felt like this really WAS reality and not
a dream


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-09-21 06:32 [#00871830]
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yeah true it sucks to be trapped in situations like that.
hey but at least you head wasn't backwards! :)


 


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