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I just ordered one of these from guitar center and i will be getting it most likely friday. Anyone have one of these? Any thoughts? |
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i have the er1 and the ea1. funny little machines they are. if the es1 is anything like these, and you tweak it the right way it can come out with some extremely interesting sounds. the programming for it is very limited though. |
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how so? the programming part.... |
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like something that frustated me was that you cant program a drum roll in 4th notes, only way you can do it is with a fast delay. and with the ea1 you can only play 1 note at a time. it may be a lot different with the es1 though. that came out a year after these did or something likr that |
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still made the crispest sounds ive ever heard though |
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So it can. |
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i'm not sure what you meant by the drum roll in 4th notes, but i hope it doesn't mean that the step sequencer is really low. i read that it's 64 steps per part, which i hope is true. this way you could do the aphex-ish buzzes or really fast sounds in a row. well, looks like i'll just have to wait and see. thanks wakisan. :) |
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You mean 16th note drumrolls? A 4th note (or quarter note) is only 4 notes a beat, like a bassdrum in 4/4 time. |
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oh yeah, forgive me i never learned how to read music. like all those fast rolls that aphex does, cant do that on the er or ea1's |
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there is a roll function on the es-1 theres also the ability to double the step notation and a swing function, which makes things real interesting |
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a neat trick regarding the roll while you have that activated on a sample you can turn the bpm sync on the delay, then wind the tempo, and get all sorts of growls :) |
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YEAH! the er1 can make like motorcycle noises. intense |
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if youd like an example check this |
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so rockenjohnny, what's the shortest note length you can do in the es-1? i checked out the track. it was nice, kind of reminded me of track 9 off draft, which i can't remember the title of right now. |
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Electribes look like fun, but i never actually used em before. the one i'd most likely go for is the...oh wait, that's the thread title. but yeah, ES-1 would be my top pick. |
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youve got 4 bars of 16. thats all at base you can switch it to double that, and retain the old tempo.. but just the once i think. that makes it 1/32 the tempo itself can go up to 300bpm the roll function has 4 settings.. they range from the bouncing you can hear in that sample to a fast one that fills right in a gap between two steps |
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well that's kind of dissapointing. i was hoping for 1/64 at least, but 1/32 isn't all that bad. i'm sure i can still have fun with it. thanks rockenjohnny. :) |
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no worries. i can say that if you plug a midi sequencer into it then the problems are solved :) |
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i'm looking to add this green box cause i saw on the e bay some battery mods. perfect solution for nature music making with that audio in option.... can you tell me ehat else you can't dowith it? more precise part limitations in polyphony infp please! |
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you can only have a bank of 9 samples from a memory of up to 64 loaded simultaneously - but you can switch between different banks without a delay. using this thing is all trickery. very much a live instrument :) that memory block of 64 samples takes up one of 8 4mb slots on a 32mb smart card. changing between these blocks seems to take forever. |
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it would however be fantastic with a battery mod. id love to have one of those, i could walk around with a mic making 'nature' songs all day :D |
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I have the Er1 Ea1 and Es1 The Es is my favourite by far. Delete the factory noises, get a few clicks and bleeps in there, then start makin beats. Its great for playing out live aswell, muting and solo-ing sounds. The only downsides to it are.... -the sample rate is 32khz (not really a problem) inaudible difference to most people + you are probably into lo-fi sounds anyway -the effects routing is limited, individual sends but only one effect per patterns, on the other hand it is a cheap unit and the effects sound pretty good. -when you upgrade the memory and wack a smart media card in the back, you are still limited to 4 meg of sample time (about 90 seconds i think). You have to recall each bank of 4mb seperately. It is a pain in the arse. Still, I highly recomend this unit, especially if you use it in conjunction with the er1 in a live setup. Who needs laptops eh? |
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i traded both my Er1 Ea1 in for a novation A Station. found the whole programming thing pretty limitting, so only really programmed it through midi and fruityloops. decent sounds through. the Es1 is meant to be the best of the lot. |
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The es-1 is defiantly the most user friendly sampler out there. Korg is pretty darned good at taking the "Work" out of music making. My akais are a bitch to prog but my korgs are made in the shade. The media is what turns me off about the es-1. I hate the little card things, but thats just Oxygenfad. |
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