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why do people go on about SAWII like its the only ambient/soundscape album ever made? saw2 is good but methinks the likes of Eno is far more developed in the field of ambience. do people actually listen to this album cos they like it or just because its AFX..........? :-/ |
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just because its AFX...........? |
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well, people might not really like ambient music, but buy saw2 say, just cos its aphex, and think this is boring n shit with not much going on etc... catch me drift? |
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I think thad gave the right answer. AFX is for us what Britney is for your niece. |
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i listen to it because it is good. simple. i like brian eno as well, but i don't listen to eno as much cos my vinyl is old and crackly and you cannot get the detail of the sound properly. :):):):) |
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i love it, cause its amazing eno is too |
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heh, cool. i just think some people tend to blindly follow artists tho and buy whatever they put out. look at how many bought smojphace and then slated it... |
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im a fallower not a leader im a sheep |
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SAWII is probably my favorite aphex release... tied only by come to daddy |
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i didn't buy smojphace. i like aphex, but i'm not stupid enough to try and get something out of the garbled mess thats on that record. i have listened to it for about ten seconds per track, that was more than enough....... |
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yeah... afx is my first electronica love so it'll always be special, but i put smojphace track one on a compilation cd with prefuse, µ-ziq, boc, etc etc and it's easily the worst track... |
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is it wise to mention the s-word in here or is it only watmm that went apeshit over that?? |
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lol you said the forbidden word (eno) we're supposed to pretend he didn't exist so we can praise aphex and autechre for their ambient traxxx anyway, i love SAW2 not just cos of the beautiful ambience but cos it's totally insane. |
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To me, SAW II is the "odd man out" of Aphex's output. It's just so different from his other work. While ambient at that time was going epic (The Orb as the de facto example), RDJ tore that all up and produced an album so barely concious of itself and its listeners. It was a hell of a statement at the time: The packaging and the hype around it was to the moon and back, but the actual contents were completely opposite of all that, subverted and totally inside itself. To me, it's one of Aphex's great statements on how he thought music should and could be, for its own sake. THAT, besides some truly superb musical moments, is what make that album a classic in my eyes. |
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It's some bleepy shit I put on in the background like |
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i dig it |
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I think ambient has just gone out of fashion. Its a shame because I was a massive ambient head. I hated anything with beats when I first started listening to electronic music. Ambient for me was king but the whole ambient scene has really folded. At one time it was the cool thing to be doing and the more minimal the better. I wouldn't be able to tell between good chill and bad chill these days. Ambient governed my buying habits for a long time though. |
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my neice likes AFX |
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i doubt "selected ambient works vol. 2" is "selected" at all. it seems very put-together-quickly. i dont find this to be a bad thing as it means whoever made it was inspired to do so. however i'm not a huge fan of ambient just cause i like hearing all the technical stuff |
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it's selected from tens if not hundreds of tracks in the same style |
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I dispise it... and the fact that he left Stone in Focus, the best track from the album, off the cd version just gets on my nerves! |
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Brian Eno is way better! |
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i dig, mainly cuz i dig AFX everything, so this is just another part of that, but it is a sweet landscape. this isn't an "eno" board either, so I think that is part of your question answered there. |
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but the point is a lot of SAW2, BoC, etc. fans don't own/haven't heard any eno albums |
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I'm the type of person that when I really get into an artist, I need to buy all of their stuff... so that's why I bought this... it's probably my least favorite of his releases... down there with classics! |
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im glad someone doesnt like it either, i feel almost obliged to buy it cause everyone likes it here so much, but it'll probably make me like aphex less |
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it took me a while to get into, because i got into afx after CTD, so his drilly stuff was what i knew. but now i think it's great, very relaxing, and wonderful to put on while studying. and i like smojphace |
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u gotta REALLY be in the mood for it.. it doesnt happen often.. i barely listen to it.. but when i do i love it.. its sublime! its likethe fact that ppl might not have any eno albums doesnt make sawII any less good.. maybe some people buy it cos its afx twin and think wtf is this? maybe some buy it cos its afx and think.. wow this is a bit minimilist but i kinda like it! maybe ill investigate more minimal ambient shit.. it may actually encourage ppl who would never have considered listening to brian enos music into giving it a whirl. to me it sounds like a musical interpretation of feng shui; everything in its right place and throw all of the extraneous crap away |
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SAWII is my favorite all time cd ever, it's phenomenal. So full of emotion. Although I hate smojphace and dont ever plan on buying. I buy what sounds good, regardless of the artist. |
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i dont believe in emotion in music, it can just provoke it, with the maker too, exept for singing |
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Its interesting music. THe song that catches me the most is track 8 on disc 1. It must have been the time that i listened to it, because it always reminds me of that. I love associating music with certain periods in my life, dont know if ne1 else ever feels that. |
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you can only listen to so many songs in a life time |
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I know EXACTLY what you mean, alot of music triggers different past experiences. |
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'Stone in Focus' ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I donno. Less developed, but far less technical and more emotional that most ambient. And FAR less pretentious. Brian Eno dripps of pretention. |
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hmm ok, i know this aint an eno board, and that he's not electronic music, so i guess he doenst get mentioned often. i guess i was wondering if peoples tastes accept ambient or just because electronic artists diversify their talent into the genre they accept it. |
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I love SAW2, very unsettling and makes me uncomfortable. I like Eno too... he's more important to the whole ambient thing and everything, I just prefer SAW. My favorite Eno stuff isn't ambient, though... |
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I always find Eno better when I'm not listening to him. I appreciate what he does, what he's done, how talented he is and how influential he's been. And I love some of his tracks. But a lot I get tired of easily. SAWII is my favourite Aphex Twin release, though. And not just because it's Aphex Twin... I got it along with SAW85-92, and only after I liked those discs did I explore any of his other work. |
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why "beef"?! i'm vegetarian!!! please don't compare SAWII with beef. i love SAWII and exploding plants. but i agree for there are other ambient out there. not for «ambiant is out of fashion» though, seems pretty timeless for me. hey, nice turtle!! |
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It excellent. |
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brian eno isn't electronic music??????????? :P what's so pretentious about eno's music, taxi man? personally i don't find systems and theories pretentious, but maybe you meant something else. |
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saw II is my favourite ambient album, it's so different than eno's ambient albums... only his album "apollo" comes close to SAW II. |
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this whole 'eno preceded ae and afx' thing is highly annoying imo. sure there'll have been many other artists who did stuff in the same vein as what ae, boc etc do these days. there have been many many great writers since the roman empire who have done great great things in a similar vein as what many many writers did after that. the point is, there is no time to check it all out, is there? why must we go on about musical intertextuality when we can enjoy present day music just as easily without it? ah well |
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yea, and you can enjoy radiohead without being familiar with the beatles but why should you? the point is, without eno there would be no electronic ambient music, for one, so people need to start recognizing the architects of the artform. next, if people enjoy aphex, BoC, LFO, Ae, mu-ziq, and any of these other '90s-present artists who have made ambient, they really should check out some of eno's classic albums, not only for their ADDITIONAL enjoyment, but for their better understanding (especially if you can do a little bit of reading about what ambient's all about). |
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brian eno beats his wife!!!! |
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dude, you like emo?!?!?! |
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SAW II is a top notch ambient work, period. Not just because it's aphex's. Everybody who disagrees has a WRONG OPINION :p |
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and i agree, SAWII is RDJ's best work. |
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