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i always thought it was the other way around. bullshit... |
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http://www.expage.com/page/supersteve700jokes |
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it's not the schoo's fault that they're in America - there's scant to bray about ... maybe if america WAS a democracy, the schools would be able to teach them more upbeat things about its history and current political situation |
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lest us not forget the triumph of the 43-45 war |
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which helped the USA get its grubby feet into Europe and then Israel |
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US first modern democracy of the world? Hahahahaha! |
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I thought France was the first modern democracy of the west. too |
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UK was first parliamentary democracy long before French Revolution and the ephemeral 1rst republic. |
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the UK used to be a democracy?? you're kidding, right? |
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Once upon a time in the 17th century... |
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with little William Pitt the Younger and Ollie Cromwell? some democracy |
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First nation in the world to reduce absolute power of monarchy and create a national assembly composed of popular representatives... |
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i'm sorry, but i live in fucking glasgow and i'm fed up hearing about how much you guys love your country. |
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umm, not in the WORLD - let's stick to the facts, ma'am |
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Hey, I think the UK is one big pile of shit now, especially with labour gov (not that there is any great alternative). But you can't deny that it once played a huge role in cultural, economic and technological progress in the world. Once upon a time... of course. Glasgow not so bad, nice countryside nearby eh? |
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Yes, it brought it's wonderful 'culture' to bear on so many colonies, most of which are now fucked-up ! |
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patriotism runs rampant in u.s.a i think becuase the kiddies are forced to sing their national anthem from such an early age. in australia they had to drop the second verse of our national anthem cause no one knew the words. |
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What are these "values" that they heep harping on about, eh? |
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"heep harping" hehe Keep motherfuggin harping!! |
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i think number one value is support the N.R.A. |
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Blame in on the brits: too bloody easy! British decolonisation was far more successful than French/Belgian/Portuguese. If the indians wanted to butcher eachother over ethnic and religious differences that was their own will dammit. Britain commited great crimes but its too easy to leap everything on them. Vietnam was Franco-US, Korea was US... |
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so we shouldn't blame the British for aiding in the fucked-up situation that many of their former colonies find themself? They were hardly the Romans or Napoleon - they stole the land, the minerals, and kept most of their colonised natives in poverty. i think if any country takes over another, it has to be held to account when that country later becomes fucked-up. they imposed their western ways on non-congruent eastern ways, and caused a giant schizm and schizophrenia |
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Yeah! they should stop teaching the travesties of our great nation's past. sweep it under the carpet. nobody wants to hear sad stories about native american genocide, and slavery anyway. |
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You speak of those crimes as if they were distinctive of british decolonisation. That simply isn't true, name one grand scale post-colonial conflict the brits were involved in (war in their own colonies i mean)? You won't be able to, unlike France in Algeria (over 2 million dead), the Portuguese in Angola (approx 5 million dead), the Belgians in the Congo (assassination of a great leader, Fabrice Lumumba, war and over a million dead)... the brits didn't get involved in wars of that scale. Now lets go over the colonies: india, a huge nation with one of the fastest rates of economic growth and inmprovement of living standards in the world... Hong Kong, massive market and economic success, last bastion of democracy in China... canada, australia... need say no more. |
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political revisionism - subliminal fascism anyone who went to school will remeber being told that the greeks invented democracy - as they rightly did |
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ancient democracy hasn't got much to do with modern style universal suffrage chum. You call a society where citizenship is herditary, where slaves or foreigners have no right to vote or to gain citizenship and where women are a sub class of human beings a democracy? Uh huh... |
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no, I was just talking about the UK, since that's the country we were currently talking about. Don't make the mistake of thinking I'm just Anti-UK and Anti-US - I'm anti ANY country who takes over another for their own nefarious reasons |
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politics is too much like religion, only causes arguments. |
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and yet they're so important to talk about that you can't just turn a blind eye to them. |
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