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u-ziq, Venetian Snares, Mike in Mono, K-formation and Frog
Pocket - night in Birmingham!
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Loopz
from Brum Land on 2003-09-09 05:03 [#00855662]
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All
Myself and a few friends (the collective known as the Brum Creative) have set a night up in Birmingham in October.
Visual history can be found on our dark and minimal site (*just like Brum itself!*)
http://www.thebrumcreative.com
Full details below:-
flyer front = http://www.loopz.co.uk/flyers/FLUXOCT4THFRONT.jpg
flyer back = http://www.loopz.co.uk/flyers/FLUXOCT4THBACK.jpg
full lineup
LIVE u-ziq venetian snares (as part of his UK tour) k-formation mike in mono (ex-plone) frog pocket
*note* the flyer states that "the church of gary busey" is playing live. He has been replaced by Mike in Mono
DJS automation my goodself (loopz) dextacy
VISUALS Psicon Labs Pixel Eyes
WHERE Custard Factory in sunny Birmingham, UK (map on brumcreaive website)
TIME 8pm to 3am
COSTS £ 7
Tickets: Swordfish 0121 633 4859 and Polar Bear 0121 441 5202
If you plan to come along or need any additional information then let me know
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Loopz
from Brum Land on 2003-09-09 05:03 [#00855663]
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btw..OCTOBER 4th 2003 is the date :)
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-09 05:09 [#00855664]
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i'd definately go if i lived in the UK, pretty cool line-up
bring the whole bunch over to holland one day man :) i'd love to see'em
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-09 06:12 [#00855695]
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Loopz,
Those are quite big name artists. You gonna loose money aren't you? How much did Mike P, V Snares, k-formation
mike in mono (ex-plone) and frog pocket cost? Must be running into 2k surely? You'd have to get at least 300 odd people into the venue just to cover costs? How are you going to achieve that or are you just mad? Its seems a possible number, only just, but surely this is an exercise in ego stroking, nothing more. Can't be any benefit for you. Please enlighten me Loopz whats in it for you? There has to be some logic.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-09 06:36 [#00855718]
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Hey Loopz don't get me wrong its a great line-up but I'm just questioning the sanity in what your doing. I reckon its gonna probably cost more like £3k but as I say I'd like to be enlightened. Whats the score how do plan to cover costs 'cause lets even forget about making a profit. I'm really interested please let me know. Whats the set up here?
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Loopz
from Brum Land on 2003-09-09 14:19 [#00856398]
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dont panic - we wont be down for sure. We have been fortunate for this night and we are already planing one in late November/early December and next year.
We held one a few months ago and had Magnetaphone etc playing and the Brum Creative have been around since 1999 so you can imagine we know when to panic.
also this is nothing to do with ego stroking. we just want to host a good party in our town. Bring more good music back to Birmingham.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-10 09:31 [#00857092]
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Loopz,
Thanks for that but you completely failed to answer my question. Are you going to make a loss? That is the question. It is about ego stroking if there is nothing in it for you. Because you're going to all that effort setting up the party etc and paying 3k odd in fees to the artists and getting nothing out of it. The only good party thats been had is by the artists who are playing and its all on you. I just don't get it why go to all that effort and pay U-Ziq and Venetian Snares exbortant fees and get nothing back. If thats not the case let me know because I really want to know. If they want to play let me them do it. Let them carry the can if there is nothing in it for you. If you don't answer I'll take it that you're either planning to take a bath over this 'good party' that you're running or you have no interest in getting anything out of it.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-09-10 09:34 [#00857099]
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hmm, i'd pay that money to see these artist playing in my town, tho there would be more expenses for all the arrangements...and i was pretty sure they charge much more
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-10 09:42 [#00857106]
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tolstoyed,
Well you're nuts. Sad. That is just so sad. Have you no self respect? People don't respect you if you have no purpose other than to run around like a blue arse fly making all that effort and getting nothing back for it. You think U-Ziq and V Snares give a turd that you would have put on a party to spread the gospel? I don't think so, they'd say "thank you very much for my fee and nice to know you you sad loser". You only get respect when you do something seriously and with a serious purpose in mind. Yes its fun to do but you wouldn't catch me doing something like that without some way of making a profit or a reasonable return from it. As far as I'm concerned any artist can go take a flying jump if he/she expects me to take a big loss just to put him/her on. Forget it!
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-10 09:46 [#00857111]
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Too add to my comments I'd say let the given artist organise it if they are so keen to play live. They're all to keen to have some dumb mug (some ignorant fan) organise a party for them and completely carry the can (costs, time and effort). There are a lot of losers around at the moment running silly parties with massive line-ups and quite frankly getting nothing out of it. What it does is leads the artists to think that there doesn't have to be any economic logic in running a party and that effectively someone will put all the time and effort in to running a party for free.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-09-10 09:56 [#00857123]
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well, the thing is (braindance) music scene here is...well there isnt one
i remember last year when rephlex was touring in europe, they could have easily stoped here as they were passing from the gig in austria to the gig in italy close to my city, but since no promoters seem to be interested in braindance no one ever comes, because of this i'd be pretty interested to bring someone here, at least to see the response and to start something going...the thing is the nearest club i can go to and listen to music i like is about a 3 hour drive from here and im spending lots of money runing around europe and trying to see some acts
"they'd say "thank you very much for my fee and nice to know you you sad
loser" " what do i care, if thats the waaay they see it i dont mind as long as they provide good show, and btw if that about 3k is real it is not expensive at all as our local techno dj's dont charge much less
anyway i dont have any experince in how these things work, so i better not say too much
perhaps i'll try and do something in the next years...hopefully
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-10 10:01 [#00857127]
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Well you have no self respect as I said. I have no respect for your either if you are just prepared to be used like that.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-09-10 10:04 [#00857133]
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so you're saying if you were me you'd be rather spending money on gas, hotels...
perhaps it is different in the uk, where you have a great party almost every week
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-10 10:05 [#00857138]
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cats and dogs rarely get along.
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Spacecadet
on 2003-09-10 10:09 [#00857142]
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maybe some people just enjoy throwing massive party with cool acts, just a thought ya know.
it's not often u get a line-up like that outside of london, i think if i had an opportunity to throw a bash like that up in the north-west then i would
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-09-10 10:44 [#00857182]
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...and we all know promo never misses a chance to critisize people.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-10 12:00 [#00857300]
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TonyFish,
Well if you want to be loser then I guess thats no problem.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-09-10 12:02 [#00857307]
Points: 3349 Status: Lurker | Followup to promo: #00857300
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lol
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Loopz
from Brum Land on 2003-09-11 17:00 [#00859161]
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Promo wrote "Thanks for that but you completely failed to answer my
question. Are you going to make a loss? "
how on earth can i answer that ? Its like saying are you going to win some money one day! I can tell your presumptions are totally incorrect and the last thing i would do is answer your questions about costs.
as for the "They're all to keen to have some dumb mug (some ignorant fan) organise a party for
them and completely carry the can (costs, time and effort). " comment!!!
I for one aint no dumb mug or ignorant fan. I actually dont play much Venetian Snares but some of the other lads with the Brumcreative like him. so why not!
I think maybe Mr Promo you need to look into what these nights are about instead of just seeing things in your own linear view. no offence like but you are very negative about something that should be enjoyed.
SpaceCadet - spot on! :)
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-11 17:17 [#00859172]
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ya. what is promo's problem. no really. what the hell.
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