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OK
on 2003-09-07 19:03 [#00854489]
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remember a while ago when the rock scene was plagued with radiohead wannabies?
starsailor, remy zero, muse, coldplay, travis, etc..
the strokes came in and brought along a lot of 'THE' bands wich are actually quite good and refreshing..
there's the darkness, the coral, the yeah yeah yeah's, the thrills, kings of leon mars volta...
i dunno.. it just seems like the rock scene right now is in good shape (surrounded by lots of crappy music as usual) and i believe the strokes were responsible for that ..
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:08 [#00854491]
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you've got to be fucking kidding me. a bunch of stooges and mc5 wannabe bands (strokes, white stripes, vines, hives..) are "saving" rock 'n' roll? only if you're 14 and don't know music outside of what's on the radio... come on.
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OK
on 2003-09-07 19:11 [#00854494]
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hmm... you're pretty much an arrogant poser mt.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-07 19:15 [#00854495]
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Never express an opinion on music while tits is about :D
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:16 [#00854497]
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whatever dude, at least i kept to the topic. cunt?
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OK
on 2003-09-07 19:17 [#00854498]
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he's just boring. i don't care.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-07 19:18 [#00854500]
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fucking hell you had just called him a 14 year old without any musical knowledge...how the fuck did you expect him to react :D
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Crovax
from S'toon (Canada) on 2003-09-07 19:19 [#00854502]
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all those bands suck.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:20 [#00854503]
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it's not to be taken to heart; anyone on this board obviously has great taste in music. it's just a stimulatory type question, not an insult. some of you people are really delicate.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-09-07 19:22 [#00854504]
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haha you really can be a total twát sometimes you know :P
I mean stimulatory actually means shitstirring in this case, and it was a statement you made not a question.
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OK
on 2003-09-07 19:22 [#00854506]
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OK
i'm not 14, and i know much other music other than what's outside the radio.
and i like the aforementioned groups.
and the radio now comparted to the radio.. lets say.. 1 year ago is a lot better. because of those bands that put the nu-metal phase in the dark. that's my point.
now go ahead and call me a cunt again.
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OK
on 2003-09-07 19:24 [#00854508]
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ok crovax you're telling me kings of leon and the mars volta suck?
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why is almost everyone on this board a nerd, bitter and resented with society.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:27 [#00854510]
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cunt?
no i only said that because it's funny how quick people are to reply back just to call someone a name.. as i said, i was just keeping to topic, and in my opinion it's ridiculous to think any band, especially a retro/wannabe band, can "save" rock. i agree that the radio's much more listenable now than it was a year ago (and especially 2 years ago) but there're so many better rock bands out now than those imitators. that's why i was surprised you or anyone else on here would think so highly (whether you enjoy them or not; i enjoy some of it, personally) of them.
it all comes down to marketing; next year it'll be some other fad that most people will be listening to.
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OK
on 2003-09-07 19:27 [#00854511]
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and no I woun't buy an album of the bands i mentioned. (maybe mars volta)
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OK
on 2003-09-07 19:29 [#00854513]
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OK let me rephrase then...
the strokes saved the radio.
agree?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-07 19:43 [#00854528]
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not really. if clear channel promoters and BBC executives didn't like the strokes they'd still be nobodies playing shitty clubs in NY.
first they gained popularity with NYC socialities. basically people most of us can't stand decided they were "fun" and started recommending them to their friends until they became trendy in NY and elite circles nationwide.
then they caught on in the UK, i'm sure in no small part due to rags like the NME. they could have picked anyone, but they decided this would be marketable (mostly because it's a "safe" sound--music that rocked as early as FORTY fucking years ago--and because of the strokes' and jack white's good looks.
THEN clear channel decided if they're huge in europe they should test them out here. the vaguely familiar (see: stooges, mc5, television, kinks, rolling stones, velvet underground) sound was really easily digested by the masses (like easy listening swing music a few years back, radio friendly ska and punk, big beat techno, etc.) and a TREND emerged.
so did the strokes save the radio? fuck no, they're just the current "it" band. it's fine to like what's on the radio; i've made loads of purchases and downloads based on mainstream radio. but to think they came out of nowhere and chased away that godawful nu-metal, which has a very short shelflife anyway (puberty), is naive. this college music has slightly more longetivity to it but it won't last long either. fads die out.
go ahead and tell me i'm wrong, people, give me a convincing argument to the contrary. i'm opinionated because i know what i'm talking about.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2003-09-07 20:05 [#00854545]
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the fucking darkness? fuck off.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-09-07 20:42 [#00854567]
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OK, i don't normally agree with tits cuz he is an opinionated bastard some times, but he knows his shit like no one else here.
I follow rock music as much as anyone here, and his explanation was SPOT on.
seriously, that is how it works. funky sells and if it sells, the radio whores it out as new and anti-pop.
titsworth may not say what you like, but he means what he says, and his analysis was correct.
*tits, if you think I'm kissing your ass I'll throw pies.....I will!*
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Asche XL
on 2003-09-07 20:47 [#00854568]
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Bravo.
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Crovax
from S'toon (Canada) on 2003-09-07 22:18 [#00854608]
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i'm not saying kings of leon and the mars volta suck. i have not heard them. but radiohead, the strokes, the vines, the white stripes. fuck them.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-07 22:20 [#00854611]
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like them or not it's a little unfair to place radiohead in the same category as those other bands.. they sound nothing alike and came out much earlier.
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-07 22:25 [#00854619]
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muse's new album is fucking amazing. strokes and white stripes bore me to tears.
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Spaced
from Mars (United States) on 2003-09-07 23:07 [#00854642]
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the strokes want to be the stooges. the white stripes are boring. the vines just suck period.
i think the only good rock bands still around are queens of the stone age, sloan, foo fighters, zwan, black rebel motorcycle club, tool, beck, brian jonestown massacre, radiohead and the dandy warhols...with the addition of all the underground bands that have never and will never change.
if you want a real rock record get "take them on, on your own" by BRMC.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-09-08 00:09 [#00854678]
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titsworth: spot on with the strokes
OK: wasnt the mars volta formed before the strokes even were thought of
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-09-08 00:14 [#00854680]
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oh and the thing about the 'the' bands is crap its a fukin term used for introdution like
the aphex twin
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-09-08 00:17 [#00854681]
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no the mars volta is an off-shoot of the now defunked band at the Drive-in... 2001 at the earliest... whereas the Strokes were formed in 1998... not that it matters at all because the strokes didn't save anything... nor did the mars volta...
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diablo
on 2003-09-08 04:39 [#00854749]
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wait til you lot hear MY band! we're hard as fuck and ugly as sin so theres very little chance we'll ever get on the radio! WOOOO! we're in it for the music man not the fame.
*cough*
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 04:45 [#00854752]
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Rock never died, it just subverted. All the bands mentioned on here are marketed towards kids, try looking deeper into the market
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Jedy
from dublin (Ireland) on 2003-09-08 05:07 [#00854763]
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the strokes are shit but that's just my opinion
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-09-08 05:35 [#00854777]
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"radiohead, the strokes, the vines, the white stripes. fuck them. "
what a lot of shit that was, how can you grroup Radiohead with them otherr bands? and oh yeah Radiohead arre deprressing rright? and Thom Yorke wants to kill himself?
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 05:49 [#00854788]
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i'll totally stick up for you. i fucking love the strokes and the white stripes and a lot of these so called "stooges and mc5 wannabes".
i wouldnt say they saved rock 'n' roll, but they definetely brought something new and exciting, albeit derived from other music.....but all music is.
people go on and on about being "original" and to be honest.....everythings been done before....so why get all uptight if someone uses the influence of another artist to create something different?
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diablo
on 2003-09-08 06:00 [#00854798]
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coz its done badly. If they were really rockin it it would be cool, but to me it just seems a weak copy.
Just my opinion.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 06:04 [#00854806]
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it cant be that bad if their touring the world to packed audiences and selling millions of albums.
i wouldnt say the strokes are a carbon copy of anyone anyway...i cant think of another band that they totally sound like.
people said to me they sound like velvet underground and television and stuff, but personally, i cant hear the similarities.
they dont sound like the stooges or the mc5 either...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-08 06:56 [#00854880]
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I like the Strokes, they didn't set out to ''save'' anything... trendy rags heaped that praise on them. I think they're just a good old fashioned no-frills rock band, derivative, but who isn't? I give them two mild thumbs up.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-08 07:03 [#00854891]
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i thought the strokes were kind of boring
i like the white stripes, not really the new stuff (poser/elitist/blahblahblah).i do definately want to bang the hell out of meg white
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-08 07:06 [#00854894]
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Yeah, she's ''bulldog cute''. Kind of weird looking, but I'd probably hit it if given the chance too.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-08 07:06 [#00854895]
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the strokes = the suck
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-08 07:12 [#00854900]
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M E O W
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-08 07:22 [#00854903]
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E didnt work :(
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 07:25 [#00854907]
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when i saw them live, she had saggy-ass boobs and a frumpy ass.
i still would bang her tho.
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diablo
on 2003-09-08 07:35 [#00854912]
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Check out "Fun House" (1969!!!) and "Raw Power" by Iggy & the Stooges, you'll see why I can't really get excited by these new bands that really don't push it in any way. But whatever, each to their own and all that.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 07:50 [#00854923]
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i've got em.....they are good albums...but its two different things. that you are trying to compare.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-08 07:53 [#00854925]
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i would bang her till we need wheel chairs
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-08 08:46 [#00854962]
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because they're borrowing a lot more than just influence, they're aping the entire sound. you and even i may enjoy some of the music but it's silly to think that some style from 30 to 40 years ago is "saving" rock & roll now. it's a huge step back instead of a step forward. way too safe to be some kind of savior.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2003-09-08 09:08 [#00854986]
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Anyone like The Black Keys.
They're doing what The White Stripes meant to do
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kochlear
from aud-stim.com on 2003-09-08 09:09 [#00854988]
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confield wasn't done before the album came out!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-09-08 09:10 [#00854990]
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mars volta is saving it!!!
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ymenard
on 2003-09-08 10:15 [#00855049]
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Yeah, none of them have done a superior work to "CONFIELD", so they are all wankers ;)
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rez
from here on 2003-09-08 12:39 [#00855172]
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the strokes DID save real rock 'n roll
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 12:56 [#00855192]
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I'll back you up also. Mars Volta are fucking amazing.....truly mind-blowing space rock!!
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