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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-07 12:43 [#00854067]
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What are the best, easy to use softsynths around at the moment. I stress easy to use cos i have no patience and am pretty rubbish anyway!
Also, as far as programming drum patterns, what's the best (and easiest) to use software wise. Thanks a plenty!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 12:49 [#00854073]
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You'd be hard pressed to find something better than synth1.
Take one of the default sounds and add some square or random LFO to the FM, for example. Wild stuff. Great built in arpeggiator and echo too.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-09-07 12:50 [#00854074]
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absynth is a pretty damned easy to use softsynth, but it doesn't have the greatest sounds unless you tweak them somewhat.. but it's good for a few uses..
the easiest prog for drum patterns for beginners would probably be FL studio (or fruity loops)....
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-09-07 12:50 [#00854075]
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for drums: Rebirth 2 or Hammerhead :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-07 13:07 [#00854091]
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can you use synth 1 with step sequencers like FLoops?
or do you need a midi controler?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 13:11 [#00854097]
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Sure, as long as your version of fruity supports VSTi instruments. I think some of the older ones don't.
Synth1 is best if you can use a midi controller or the piano roll view though - some of the sounds need to be held down to evolve.
You can always go ctrl-t to use the keyboard as a midi controller.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-07 13:14 [#00854099]
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oh, how i wish that were all in english.
erm...the site, that is.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-07 13:20 [#00854105]
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i can't figure out how to use it. i can't read anything.
af0sen8'0p)"Q#@$IPO'3n25aoubwq3'0ah) *AWH rwA *dies*
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 13:20 [#00854106]
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What? You plonk the vsti dll in a directory somewhere, let fruity know about it, load a synth1 channel and start knobulating.
Like I say you get some of the best effects by turning on the LFOs and applying them to this or that parameter.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-07 13:21 [#00854107]
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Absynth is very good for pads, excellent for ambient music and anything that requires a softer edge to the sound. On the downside- programming patches for it can be rather hit&miss (in terms of reproducing a sound in your head)compared to other synths. It also uses a fair whack of processing power.
FM7 is nice, but again has a particular sound to it- good for doing retro sounding stuff, but not so good for very clean, highly produced, more modern sounds.
Vaz Modular is a very tidy modular synth-vastly easier than Reaktor (which takes quite a while to be able to actually make good synths- and by that I mean ones on par with the quality of the ones that ship with it). With a bit of work you can make pretty much any sound in the "normal" range of keyboards etc. and it even has some nice patches that emulate classic synths like the 303, sh-101 etc.
If you are only just getting into synthesis, the TS-404 and SimSynth are both very good introductions and offer a wide sound palette. Both are included with Fruityloops. Often overlooked by people due to the fact they're cheap and rather plain looking, they can often be used for more normal, analogue synth emulation type sounds, at a far lower drain on processing power.
I would say the most versatile "basic" synth is Subtractor. Whilst being built into Reason, it is possible to use in other sequencers via rewire. It has a very low CPU drain, but has a suprisingly professional sounding quality to it. It is also one of the best for convincing, low CPU emulation of "real" instruments-
strings, basses, triangles, percussive sounds etc.
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blrr
from the block on 2003-09-07 13:31 [#00854123]
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i hate subtractor. I think it sounds like some fisher-price synth you hit with a mallet and it blows bubbles at the same time.
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blrr
from the block on 2003-09-07 13:32 [#00854124]
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though thats just my opinion
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-07 13:35 [#00854128]
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aaahhhhh, yes. figured it out. that was more trouble than it needed to be. i hate being a fathead. anyways...thanks. i'll play around with this a bit. see what happens. =]
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 13:38 [#00854131]
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FINALLY I have converted someone to THE DARK SIDE
Now you need to download some patches here
Some of them are great and some of them suck and all of them surprised the heck out of me 'cause the default patches really don't showcase what the little mamajamma can do.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2003-09-07 13:39 [#00854134]
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ProbeVAS
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-07 13:43 [#00854142]
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well. i got it to show up in my f-loops...but i still have no idea how the hell to use it. it just sits there and looks cute. i promise i'm not just a fucktard. i mean i AM, but that's not the case here.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 13:48 [#00854148]
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Basically everyone is looking for the One True Synth like it'll make any noise they can imagine - BULLSHIT - what I want is lots of synths with short learning curves so I can take a default patch and fuck it into something interesting and unique, not get out a fucking slide rule and calculate the Hurpaxulon transformations of an infinite quantum harmonic series as defined in volumes mcmlxvi-mcmlxvii of the Ontario Maths Squad Advisory Bulletin.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-07 13:49 [#00854149]
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how the crap do i get it to show up as a channel? i can only make it come up as an FX plugin...and then it doesn't even do anything. it just stares at me.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 13:49 [#00854150]
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Play a few notes while you knobulate. If you don't have a midi controller go ctrl-t and use your computer keyboard.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 13:50 [#00854151]
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FX channel?! How the fuck did you do that?! Did you have a Cubase effects plugin directory that you stuck it into?
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-07 13:51 [#00854152]
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A lot vst instruments suck the living crap out of the computer's processing power. AO DKL is my favourite VST instrument. Very simply drum machine that allows you to put in your own samples in and alter the volume and pitch. Very easy to use and very effective. And the 3s sampler is good too. Allows you to put a up to for samples in it an play it accross the range of the keyboard. Both don't use up much CPU.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-07 13:55 [#00854157]
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*cries uncontrollably* i don't even know anymore!
fix it for me! waaaaahhhh!!
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jamesa
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-07 15:13 [#00854259]
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great response there lads, keep em coming if you know any more : )
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-09-07 15:17 [#00854267]
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im currently enjoying reaktor 4 :-D
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-09-07 16:03 [#00854356]
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Fruityloops is pretty good for I dont feel like learning I want stuff to happen now.
Or try rebirth, thats even more brain dead.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-09-07 16:06 [#00854364]
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" I dont feel like learning, I want stuff now"
Wow you forgot quotation marks and you sound like a ree ree
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 18:29 [#00854445]
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triangle 2 is pretty good and free, phatmatik pro is great for slicing loops and doing all manner of madness... another fave of mine is sonic syndicates junglist.. and not forgetting one called galactix which does the lushest of lush pad sounds.. sorry, no links, im sure u know all about kazaa/soulseek etc
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2003-09-07 19:29 [#00854512]
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That's one damn fine synth there fleetmouse - it ought to be more well know.
It works really well in Buzz too!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 19:45 [#00854530]
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I think people see the Japanese and it gives them the willies.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2003-09-07 19:58 [#00854542]
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it ought to be more well know
I almost sound Japanese myself.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-07 20:40 [#00854565]
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I've been playing around with pro-53 and it's impressive too. Not the most astoundingly original patches (well it is a vintage emulator) but the sound quality is superb. It's one of those synths where as you go lower down it just gets fatter and eviler.
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2003-09-07 21:10 [#00854577]
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as do most synths, really.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-09-07 22:06 [#00854595]
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3xOSC is brilliant, control over everything. everything. only used in fruityloops.
also the zephods mx7 or whatrever buzz synth is wicked
and the mdadx10 and the mdajx10 are wicked VSTis
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Rambling Madman
from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-07 22:07 [#00854596]
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You guys never heard of KVR?........You been missing out on some shit then aint ya!
I've saved you a little time by picking out my personal favs but if you look deeper there are a truck load of other VSTi's, some free some not, some have been mentioned some havn't. The following are all free to download & have the madman seal of aproval!
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get.php?mode=show&id=305
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get.php?mode=show&id=634
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get.php?mode=show&id=501
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get.php?mode=show&id=204
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get.php?mode=show&id=366
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get.php?mode=show&id=251
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get.php?mode=show&id=128
http://www.kvr-vst.com/get.php?mode=show&id=203
I think that'll do for now d;p
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