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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-20 13:11 [#00829898]
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I posted this over at watmm... feel free to go over and participate... or, just discuss here...
watmm poll
1. Big labels like Warp will release the quality stuff. With the economy etc, the smaller labels will die out (also due to piracy). The only ones who will be able to survive, are the big labels.
2. Smaller labels will out do the bigger labels in terms of quality. Many overlooked artists will get signed on smaller labels, and start getting the recognition they deserve.
3. Web-based labels/artists will take over. With the rise in quality artists, just posting their mp3s online for free, and making a community, people will care less and less about the established labels.
4. It will all remain just like it is now. A balance of all these things
We are in a weird transistion I think... It seems like the big labels currently arnt offering too much amazing stuff... and smaller labels seem to be more and more... and also the amount of internet based labels/musicians is also rising...
Wheres it going to go?
Personally... I think smaller labels will out do bigger labels in terms of quality
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-08-20 13:13 [#00829899]
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the future of IDM is . . . bleak
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-08-20 13:18 [#00829904]
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IDM is, and will continue to influece artists of all other genres. much as hip-hop did durring the 80s, 90s, and continues to do.
IDM styles will be adopted by artists in other areas, and artists who consider themselves IDM will continue to polish/modify their own styles.
IDM will grow, morph, and influence.
the entropy of ideas.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-20 13:27 [#00829922]
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quality is relative.
if you are a frat kid doing keg stands, high quality to you might be Korn, or Ben Harper.
if you are 13 year old girl obviously quality is anything with a group of young fellas each with different shaped facial hair.
In IDM we (people of this board) still cannot agree on what is quality, some prefering the more steril and abstract others prefering the more organic and melodic.
but having said that, i believe web based, free music will begin to dominate. and marketing will have to adjust and evolve to compensate, possibly by increasing merchandising, limited edition print-runs of c.d.s etc..
i think the real reason RIAA folk are against internet piracy is that it would be too difficult and expensive to give their marketing practices a complete overhaul to compensate for the internet music revolution. It is much easier to use scare tactics to attempt to stop internet piracy.. eventually they will have to cave in a accept it though.
but what do i know? i am a scientist, not a marketing executive.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-08-20 13:29 [#00829923]
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i wanna talk to a 13 years old girl whos mad about aphex :)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-08-20 13:32 [#00829926]
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they probably smell and have buck teeth tho :P
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C738
from Outer Space on 2003-08-20 13:35 [#00829933]
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he DOES have facial hair.
But anyhow. I'd like to make some money with my music offcourse.
But why worry? Time will tell.
I worry more about the 'elite' acting people. You know the ones that are soooooo IDM. ;-)
Most of the times those people think aphex twin is a duo and that squarepusher freaked out on sokoban (the game ;))
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-20 13:36 [#00829934]
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whats with these kind of discussions as of lately..?
anyway - I have no idea.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-08-20 13:38 [#00829938]
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just to bother people who have no ideas about the question :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-20 13:43 [#00829941]
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you've come to the right place! :)
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C738
from Outer Space on 2003-08-20 13:53 [#00829946]
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So the market will separate into two.
One part that will still be commercially active, releasing music and
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one part that will be non profit. People will share their music, but I guess there will be distribution of music on CD too. Because it's legal to download and burn it. The word gets spread and they get asked on gigs. The entry fee will be to cover costs like hiring PA (if not available somehow) and paying the artists' travelling costs.
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epsy
from Afghanistan on 2003-08-20 14:00 [#00829957]
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idm will continue to give nerds something to spend money on long after LOTR is available at your local video store for rent
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-20 14:05 [#00829967]
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people shouldn't be so willy-nilly-the-sky-is-falling when they think about the future of idm... idm is a relative term... so unless people stop making electronic music altogether, it will always exist at the fringe of this sphere, no matter what form it takes...
if the poll question were about music in general i would say that well run independents will command more and more of the markets as the big 5 continue to alienate a relatively large chunk of the alternative-thinking population (who happen to be relatively enthusiastic about music)... that said i think the majors will survive, by virtue of media control, as well as cross industry participation... a great example of this right now is the new VWs coming out complete with i-pod attachments...
i don't consider Warp to be a big label... although it is big in its field...
nor do i think that the quality of its releases has gone down... certainly they have diversified, but if the underground really wants to punch holes in the big industry fuselage, that's exactly what they have to do... an environment that is condusive to maximal creativity and artistic prowess is one in which people are receptive to art in all forms that it presents itself to us in... we cannot invent new genres by listening to only one...
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-08-20 14:09 [#00829974]
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3.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-08-20 14:10 [#00829979]
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but they will call it RSDM relativly smart dance music, because everything will be relativised
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-08-20 14:11 [#00829981]
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everybody pretty much has a good as access to the audio kit software etc to make any thing as good as the big names so i think this all depends on the smaller unknown to come up with the goods
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-20 14:14 [#00829984]
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i disagree... no matter how many talented bedroom producers this age produces, they will always be engulfed in copious copious amounts of unexceptional music... that's why labels are good... let them sift through it all and find the goods... when something comes out on warp, or Mu, or rephlex, or ~Scape, or CCO, i know that it's probably worth checking out...
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-20 14:18 [#00829995]
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it's all about addict records
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-20 14:18 [#00829998]
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has xylophone jism cum out yet?
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-08-20 14:22 [#00830003]
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i don't think any thing radical is going to happen anytime soon.... Small labels have never made too much money anyways.... it's more out of a love for the music... i don't think that there will ever be a point when people no longer want to play vinyl records or own the real deal.... mabey not a lot ... but most small labels arne't doing much more than 1000 copy presses anyways....
meanwhile more mainstream producers while co-op idm ideas
example: 1971's Who's Next by the who is estremly influeced by the sequencer/tape expermiments of the late 60's by people like Terry Riley. (In fact you all should download Rainbow in a curved air if you don't have it yet)... anyways they took more experimental ideas into a more pop format to great success.... same with floyd, beatles...etc..
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-20 14:25 [#00830008]
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i also believe the internet is a breeding ground for the next big IDM artists....
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-08-20 14:48 [#00830027]
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Roygbivcore, have you heard xylophone jism?
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