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offline mashnote from mol (Belgium) on 2003-08-12 06:57 [#00818514]
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this is weird, but aparently the classic Helvetica font
isn't on my pc anymore.
utterly strange and frustrating.

can someone help me out to get it back?the classic one, not
the 'ultra thin,etc.." stuff.


 

offline martinhm from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-12 07:10 [#00818518]
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I can't seem to find it either in the fonts folder, although
I can select it in applications such as Word. Odd.


 

offline mashnote from mol (Belgium) on 2003-08-12 07:14 [#00818521]
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well,i can't even select it in word.. :(


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-08-12 07:17 [#00818523]
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i could be completely wrong but, i don't think helvetica is
one of microsoft's core fonts. i think 'helvetica'
is more of a macintosh font, where it's windows cousin is
arial.

anywhoo... the point being that helvetica isn't free, and
unless you bought some program like corel, that comes with a
font package (or downloaded the font off kazaa or something)
it might not've ever been on your pc.

here's a pretty neat online font previewer.

and HERE's a link to buy helvetica.


 

offline mashnote from mol (Belgium) on 2003-08-12 07:21 [#00818530]
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thanx, i didn't know that.

i knew it wasn't free, but i thought it came with the whole
windows package



 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-08-12 07:22 [#00818531]
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hmm.... now that's interesting. same thing happens to me.
shows up in word, but not in my FONTS folder


 

offline mashnote from mol (Belgium) on 2003-08-12 07:23 [#00818534]
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aha! ;p


 

offline martinhm from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-12 07:25 [#00818535]
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I think there's something a bit special about Helvetica. In
Word it has a little printer icon next to it, and in
Illustrator it has an asterisk, where all the other fonts
don't. I can't select it at all in Notepad. Maybe there is
the assumption that it is a printer font and hence available
on the device you are printing to.


 

offline martinhm from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-12 07:35 [#00818538]
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Not entirely relevant, but interesting nonetheless, here is
an article on the differences between arial and helvetica


 

offline joakimlinden from Skövde (Sweden) on 2003-08-12 08:15 [#00818557]
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Helvetica look more boring than Arial to my eye... Much more
strict.


 

offline uzim on 2003-08-12 08:25 [#00818560]
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i prefer Akzidenz Grotesk. : )

i don't think i have normal Helvetica either on mac os X...
nor Old English Text (!!) ' _'


 

offline uzim on 2003-08-12 08:37 [#00818568]
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the font i'm searching for at the moment is Minimum
by Pierre Di Scullio...

i have some of Fuse collections too, some of them
(not all, it's often mixed bags) are really cool


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-08-12 15:32 [#00818879]
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dude, i freakin' looked around all day for this answer, and
i can't find any info about it.

now i'm currious. if you figured out what was going on
please let me know. i'll keep looking too.

HERE is a link to the microsoft core fonts just in
case you need one of them.


 

offline mashnote from mol (Belgium) on 2003-08-12 15:37 [#00818883]
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yeah, it never intrigued me as much as today. i too searched
for any answers, but without luck.

let the search continue ;)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-08-12 15:54 [#00818895]
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well, i've got my peeps on three other messageboards
currious about this as well, so if there's anyone on the web
that knows anything about it hopefully it'll turn up soon.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-12 15:56 [#00818897]
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i always wanted to know what happened to Chiller, i loved
that.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-08-12 16:36 [#00818918]
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as far as the MS WORD issue goes; it appears that word is
claiming to have helvetica installed, however it is actually
arial.

check it out. they are both exactly the same. so, the
computer actually doesn't have helvetica installed, it just
claims to and displays arial.

more as details unravel.


 

offline martinhm from York (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-13 03:58 [#00819327]
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damn, you're right. How can MS get away with using Arial as
a Helvetica replacement? They should just fess up to not
having Helvetica installed.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-08-13 06:56 [#00819437]
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"When Microsoft made TrueType the standard font format
for Windows 3.1, they opted to go with Arial rather than
Helvetica, probably because it was cheaper and they knew
most people wouldn't know (or even care about) the
difference."


history of arial

my guess is that microsoft is trying to have it's cake and
eat it too. they put helvetica on the list, use arial
instead, and hope nobody notices.



 


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