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offline FLUX on 2003-08-03 09:02 [#00806485]
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I found a great Cronenberg site. With lots of goodies on
it.

http://www.davidcronenberg.de

God bless za Germans.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-03 09:12 [#00806494]
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I just watched the clip from The Brood. Damn good movie it
was, great soundtrack too, creepy violins and shit.

Cronenberg has this penchant for not using lots of extras
that makes the world feel like a cold and desolate place.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 10:12 [#00806555]
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cool!

love Cronenberg.

that's funny, Fleetmouse, just started watching The Brood
last night. great visuals and aaaah.. Oliver Reed...

I love cronenbergs concepts.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-03 10:19 [#00806562]
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I watched it when I was auditing my friend's film class a
couple years ago. The prof made some good points about how
he used camera angles to increase tension - either low or
high in the kitchen for example, to kinda show the POV of
the antagonists.

Speaking of camera angles, the director of City of God does
something similar in the chicken chase scenes, showing the
chicken's POV. (did you notice the chicken narrowly got
away? Kind of an allegory of how Rocket got away...)


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-08-03 11:17 [#00806612]
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*Cronenberg aficiando*


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 11:30 [#00806620]
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..or afficionado...? :P


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-08-03 18:01 [#00807200]
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cool.

saw "Spider" recently at an int'l film fest .. he's got a
thing for his creepy crawlies doesn't he [even if it is just
in the title]


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 19:24 [#00807240]
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supposedly he's working on his next film now..
"painkillers". here's some info:

Set in the world of radical performance artists,
"Painkillers" is the story of Saul Tenser, an artist with a
high pain threshold who is approached to capture a
subversive group. He must decide if what he uncovers should
be protected or handed over.

"I've been interested in performance artists and the whole
subculture since a fellow student of mine (at the University
of Toronto) wrote a short story about a man who did surgery
as a performance, literally cutting off his own hand,"
Cronenberg told Daily Variety. "I remember reading that
story and being incredibly shocked and impressed by it."
Cronenberg said he began writing the script about four years
ago and expects to cast it this summer. It will be produced
by Robert Lantos, who worked with Cronenberg on the 1999
Dimension Films release "eXistenZ" and Fine Line Features'
1996 picture "Crash." The film is currently scheduled to
start production sometime in the first quarter 2003.

Cronenberg has been writing the original screenplay focusing
on a radical performance artist, Saul Tenser, who has an
unusual high tolerance for pain. As he searches out odd
sexual and aesthetic appetites, Tenser is approached to
search out a group of enigmatic subersives. Finding himself
on the edge of an underground world, Tenser must decided
whether he should protect the information he has uncovered
or hand it over to the proper authorities, whom will no
doubt supress it.

"David is one of the most original and courageous filmmakers
of our time," Lantos said of his collaborator. "Painkillers
ventures into a terrain other cinema has not gone before. I
can't imagine anyone other than David taking this on, which
makes working with him so interesting and inspiring."
Cronenberg said of the project, "Robert and I have an
excellent relationship that began with Crash, a film
everyone was afraid to make. I have great repect for his
taste and support of dangerous material"



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-03 19:35 [#00807244]
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Well he's the perfect man for that material, but isn't it
all a little... 90s? I mean when the local "underground"
weekly has run stories on tounge-splitting, the whole thing
has lost some of its shock value.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-08-03 19:45 [#00807253]
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cronenburg rocks ! 'nuff said


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 19:48 [#00807257]
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just finished watching The Brood.

jesus, those dwarfs frightened the fuck out of me!

that scene where the teacher gets killed is so cruel - very
good. :)

fleetmouse: I can't say. it's only a tidbit of information,
I have no idea what he'll do with this.
and there is a difference between tongue-splitting etc. and
full body mutilation in the name of art (of which pretty
extreme examples exist in China, for one).


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-03 19:51 [#00807263]
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Yes, the little fellows are unsettling, aren't they? :D

I'm thinking Orlan's surgical performances are pretty
extreme, but do you have a link to this Chinese stuff?



 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 20:01 [#00807276]
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um, no.

supposedly there was this artist who cut off one of his arms
and hung it from wires as a piece.

and another artist who's act involved eating stillborn
childeren (not exactly self-mutilation, but kind of out
there in it's own way).

there was a documentary about this movement on Dutch
television last year.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-08-03 20:04 [#00807285]
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How disarming. Did he call the piece A Farewell to Arms? Was
he making a political commentary on the arms trade? Did he

GAK

:: chokes to death on a bad pun ::


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 20:04 [#00807286]
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and about The Brood - really good how he does show their
faces briefly, but after that only from afar.
makes them even more creepy.

very emotional film, I thought.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-03 20:06 [#00807288]
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RIGHT! THAT'S IT!!

my Brood are coming for you. please leave the door open -
their fingers are kind of underdeveloped, they have a hard
time opening jam jars, doors, handling machinery of death,
etc.


 

offline FLUX on 2003-08-04 05:48 [#00807705]
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All you lucky lucky Zone 2 European sods can buy Naked Lunch
on DVD. Lucky, lucky, lucky sods. Damned laser disc people
got the rights for it in Zone1 so no DVD's of Naked Lunch in
Zone 1.
Grrrr...Purrr...Meow.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-04 07:24 [#00807917]
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ah yes.. I do have it on dvd.. yes..

beep beep yeh.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-08-04 07:35 [#00807934]
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Videodrome and Crash are good (in a very fucked up way, but
that's cronenberg for you). Naked Lunch i once claimed to be
the worst and weirdest film i'd ever seen (still think it's
the weirdest next to Earaserhead). but that was a long time
ago. i think i would appriciate it more if i watched it now

his latests Spider however, i found incredibly boring. I
didn't even have the patience to watch it all. It was
lacking cronenberg's weirdness ;P


 

offline FLUX on 2003-08-04 07:36 [#00807938]
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Grr..ahrr...Grr.
{breaks down}
Sob.



 

offline FLUX on 2003-08-04 07:47 [#00807970]
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Yes Spider is a very gentle and subtle movie. I think the
story demanded it. Or it could have turned mental
disability into a freak show. I read in Cronenbergs
interview in Sight and Sound that he envisaged Spider's
character as a differently abled artist. Fienes's hair and
costume and mannerisms were modeled after Samuel Beckett.

Highly recommend revisiting Naked Lunch. In fact if you
read the book the movie seems very linear and straight
forward.


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-08-04 07:53 [#00807975]
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Crash is great, dunno if I ENJOYED watching it though... I
think I've seen all the important ones except Spider and...
Scanners... ugh. The exploding head beckons me.

Painkillers sounds interesting... does anyone know who's
starring, IMDB doesn't say...


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-08-04 07:57 [#00807979]
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crash nearly got me off that's how cool i thought it to be.
a fucked up rush that was.
deadringers: yum :p


 

offline FLUX on 2003-08-04 08:06 [#00807988]
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Painkillers sounds a whole lot like a fantastic book by
Kathe Koja called "Skin" also about a troupe of body
modifying performance artists that keep pushing the limits.
SKIN
scroll down to read the synopsis.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-04 08:57 [#00808072]
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dead ringers is very good.

must be the most intense psychological film I've seen.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-08-04 09:45 [#00808176]
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i haven't seen that one. what's it about?


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-08-04 09:49 [#00808182]
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I saw a film recently that reminded me of Dead Ringers,
called 'A Zed & Two Noughts', by Peter Greenaway - Also
about twins who kill themselves, but its more of a black
comedy.

Crash (the book), was more intence than the film, but its
still a masterpiece.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-04 09:50 [#00808187]
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a pair of twin gynaecologists - one timid, the other more
outward. when the outward one gets a girlfriend and gets
tired of her, she is passed on to the timid one.
then the timid one falls in love with one of the passed on.

they get more and more loopy - making strange instruments
for operating on mutant women, etc.

click


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-08-04 11:48 [#00808392]
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spider is top notch but existenz sucks. painkillers sounds
good, hope its executed in a good way though.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-27 14:07 [#00839123]
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scanners is so good! watched it this weekend. has a really
great "feel" to it, like dead ringers meets alien?


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-08-27 20:56 [#00839638]
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i never thought i'd say this, but that blowing up head
thingy in scanners was pretty well done, but don't get any
ideas JAR about putting that as your avatar....cos watching
that happen over and over is just.......toooo toooo much!
=0)

the movie was good, terrible dubbing job tho, guess it's cos
the movie is 20 years old....very original story!


 


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