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So yeah I loved the movie when I saw it in theaters, and so I got the DVD which just came out on tuesday. I love this movie. Seriously, its so great. Its a fucking art film. And I dont care that george clooney is in it. He does a damn fine job. I love the music, and the images, and how every scene feels utterly alone, and it moves so slow. Its like, meditative. Say what you will, but this has to go on my alltime favorites list. |
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neverr hearrd of it. |
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its a love story/sci-fi movie. There is a planet solaris, that we are studying. The space station sends a request for Clooney ( a psychologist) to come there, and help, because the crew is experiancing all this weird stuff, and they refuse to leave. So he goes, and there, he finds his dead wife. Its an amazing story imo. Ive read the book, which was great too. Still need to see the original movie though. |
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*finds his dead wife... ALIVE. |
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humm i guess i could check it out then if the video shop has it. |
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i like george he's tasty |
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O_o |
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i will not watch the remake, the original is one of the best movies of all time, tarkovsky is definately in my top five directors along with bergman, lynch and kurosawa and sometimes fellini. |
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yay for closedmindedness! :-D |
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it's a fucking great movie the ending is heavenly beautiful and is nicely counterpointed by the eeryness of the first part of the film best film in years (since american beauty) |
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i work at blockbuster and all the customers and other employees hated solaris. i'm the only one in this town that likes it. |
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Tt's no T2 orr Aliens I don't imagine. |
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2001: a space oddesy nuff said or full metal jacket kubrick's the man |
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stanley kubrick was indeed a man. |
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it's a nice varation to 2001, more uplifting, understandable |
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loved the book. loved the original. still have to see the new one.. |
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don't miss out on the newer "solaris" out of respect for tarkovsky. it's not a remake of his vision at all, it's a very different film, and actually very good. as with most films, expect that liberties will be taken with the material (as liberties were taken by tarkovsky). i'm not so sure that it's more understandable, though...i think that's why so many people hated it (it was a huge commercial failure), because at the end they are left asking "wtf?" the soundtrack was perfect for the film, also. |
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i fucking love the music in this movie. meditative is right. read the book, its equally good. |
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hmm i havent heard the soundtrack yet.. though, while reading the book, and watching tarkovsky's version, i imagined stars of the lid as being the perfect soundtrack. |
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I still haven't even watched it (new or old), but I'm going to make a point to rent the Clooney one next week... and maybe the old one if I'm lucky enough to find it. I love what the premise sounds like, reminds me of the Farplane from Final Fantasy 10. I guess I'll download the soundtrack right now, shouldn't put it off any longer. |
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i wasnt being entirely serious when i said i wouldnt see it, i just wanted to say how amazing the original is(the music is amazing in the original too). I will eventually make myself see the newer one just to see soderbergh's take on it. |
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just bought the Tarkovsky version on dvd. that was quite expensive!! and I have never seen it before! but I always wanted to, so this thread reminded me. (hopefully) yay for me. |
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This is one of my all-time top 10 movies, pure art. I even bought the soundtrack :P If recommending it to other people it's probably best now to include the term 'sci-fi' in any description though, they'll only get the wrong idea and whine. |
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ok, good tip, i'll watch it soon ;) |
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solaris isnt sci fi at all, neither is 2001, at least i dont consider them in that category at all, they involve space so theyre sci fi, is that the reasoning? |
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true, they are more metaphysical meditations that use the context of a technologically advanced future (with the associated symbolism). i suppose it depends on what you expect from "science fiction"; for some people, that means action-adventure set in a technologically advanced future. with the soderberg version, i think many people were led to believe that the film would be an action-adventure/romance set in a technologically advanced future, which would explain the confusion and annoyance with which many viewers responded... |
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it's a load of pretentious wank. Invasion of the body snatchers meets 2001 with none of their beauty. George Clooney is complete toss as usual and the bint that plays his dead wife is fucking hopeless. the plot is none existence, the supposed "spirtuality" of the movie is hackneyed and cliched, the ending predictable. i don't recommend it bill_hicks rating : 1 |
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bill, you said the "spirituality" of the film is hackneyed and clichéd; i was wondering what other films share this hackneyed and clichéd "spirituality." if you thought the plot was non-existent, i can hardly imagine how you made sense of the ending at all, much less found it predictable. true, though, most people will not like this film. |
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what do you mean most of the people won't like this film. You arrogant git. Is it too intelligent for the great unwashed, eh? I saw the film, got it and still thought it was shite. Oh, but you understood the film on a much higher level than every one else, didn't you? Aren't you great. |
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people get different things out of stuff. So, arnt you saying youre better then all of us, who liked it? Cause you saw past the BS? |
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she was my little sister. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
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huh? |
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yikes, what a fragile ego, bill! i was being honest and straightforward. note i didn't offer specific reasons for that statement; this film was widely disliked, that's all. you spend all of your energy getting your back up instead of responding to a sincere question. perhaps you're not used to agreeing to disagree. |
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the original russian sci fi is much better than the remake - i wish the yanks would stop trying to remake amazing films - they want to remake the wicker man - which is sacrilige in my mind - here is a synopsis of the og film http://www.eofftv.com/s/solyaris_main.htm |
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well, I loved the remake... so I guess I need to see the original, if its that good! |
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incidentally, i'm still interested in hearing your thoughts on my question, if your indignation has begun to evaporate. |
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those last two comments were addressed to bill, the follow up feature doesn't seem to work for me. |
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i guess bill is now in another thread, looking for a reason to bitch slap some sense into someone! : ) |
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Maybe you arre using it wrrong. Also, why did you have to add that extrra jibe to bill_hicks? |
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are you on a Mac? on OS9? I found I couldnt use the reply function, when under os9 |
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or it was all a series of coincidences... but when I went to OSX, it worked... |
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anus, how could i be using it wrong? it's pretty simple. anyway, yes i'm on a mac and it's os9. anus, you have a pretty sharp sense of humor. i really wanted to hear what bill thought, and instead i got a blast of pitiful, angry "you think you're better than me!" i didn't take it personally, but chose to respond with playful humor when bill did not respond. forgive me if i was out of line. |
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Narr you arre not rreally out of line, it's just with 'flaming' being the big MB issue at the moment it is sometimes betterr to bite yourr tongue even if you arre in the rright. |
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that's what the smiley face is for! the balm to soothe each mb abrasion. |
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i saw the original and was bored to tears by it. consequently i have no desire to watch the remake. |
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Does anyone have an English subtitled (or dubbed) version of Alex Tarknovsky's Solaris in .avi? I downloaded it, but it was in Russian... and I'm not a very good Russian. |
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i knew relatively little about the movie except that i had heard it was good. i did not expect an action film, and a slow pace in a film does not turn me off. however this film seemed slow for no real apparant reason. imo the director did a poor job of setting up why the pacing was set the way it was. ok, i'm aware that space is vast and lonely, kubrick did a masterful job showing this in 2001, but in solaris the actual vastness of space was skipped over with clooney hearing that he was asked to go to the station, then spontaneously appearing. then once he arrived at the station and i expected the character development to begin... it didn't. it sortof just scooted along with glancing shallow looks into the characters that never really gave them any depth. the result: i never really became interested in the the characters or cared what happend to them. yes, there was an errie detachment in the two left on the ship which almost became interesting, but since it was never really explored it also didn't. the one relationship which was mildly engaging was the one between clooney and his first visitor. that was the only time during the film that i identified with the character's emotions, but it was short lived. this director was obviously trying to walk the thin line between remaining tantalizingly vague, and spoonfeeding the plot to the audience. i just think he failed to create an interesting film. but, this of course is my opinion. maybe if i'd read the book, or knew more about the story i would've gotten more out of it. |
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andrei tarkovsky you mean ophecks... i kind of want to see it even more now since so many people hate it\love the remake. the original is an essential moving and beautiful film just like all of his other masterpieces. |
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it freaked me out. the original I mean. loved it. :) |
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Whatever, I couldn't remember, why don't you just SUE MY DAMN PANTS OFF?!?!?!11ARgjlkajsdg Anyway, nobody has it? I'm getting the 2002 version right now, but I can't find an English original... I watched bits and pieces, the the visuals really appealed to me... |
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